
12-03-2008, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by StanF18
Agreed with all.
But just to play Devil's advocate and make it interesting, how then to explain the Hondas and Toyotas that "take a lickin' and keep on tickin'"??
I'm not even talking about the well-maintained ones. I'm talking about multiple missed oil changes, 250,000 miles on the odometer, and clueless owners, and yet time and again: THEY are the ones enjoying their brand's reputation for durability and reliability, while us Bavario-philes keep running to our indies and dealers for stupid sh#$. Headlight condensation, hatch rattling, CV joints, water pump, A/C blower, squeaks, rattles, leaks, and so on and so forth. Most of the Honda owners don't even know who their service rep is, while we are ALL intimately acquainted with ours. As much as I love my X, I wouldn't fault anyone for "bitching and moaning" about their X. BMW needs to aspire to both the ultimate driving experience AND the ultimate reliability experience. I do not see why they cannot institute more stringent quality control on their assembly lines, especially after certain issues are identified as problem areas on specific models.
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Well to play devil's advocate to you playing devil's advocate: Honda and Toyota are not in the same market as BMW. Yes they are reliable but the performance, engineering and tech stuff is not as complex as on a BMW. I guess a better comparison would be to use MB, etc. But I agree and can contest as an almost 8 year owner that you take care of your car and it will take care of you. There are the extreme cases where mechanical meltdowns occur on some owners as bad luck but on the most part I think most are happy with theirs.
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