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gregorio 09-20-2010 11:58 PM

Bluetooth Confused ;(
 
Hi Everyone,
I just bought a 2004 X5 and am trying to sort out what is needed to make Bluetooth work. I have learned that 2004 models did not have BT capability from the factory. OK but how can it be that there are Bluetooth parts for cars prior to this date?

Now, I am looking at photos here and on the BimmerNav site BMW Bluetooth X5 retrofit - Bimmernav BMW Upgrades to learn how to retrofit on and see this photo which shows the Bluetooth antenna AFTER installation. http://www.bimmernav.com/images/x5bt1.jpg I already have that module! What gives? I know I have the telephone prewire or at least the manual to it with my owners manual. Where is the ULF normally located and how do I find out what version it is?

There is no cradle in the center console but suspect that one of the previous owners had a phone installed and put in the blank when they sold it. Pressing the button on the steering wheel says activating phone but nothing happens.

Could I already have Bluetooth retrofit?

Help. PLEASE! I have not been this confused over a new vehicle, ever :(
Greg

big bob 09-21-2010 03:05 AM

When the display says ACTIVATE PHONE, begin oyur pairing from your handset. It should be described in the vehicle manual.

gregorio 09-21-2010 11:16 AM

Thanks Bob, I have tried to pair a couple different phones (iPhone, Blackberry) at that time but neither one see the car. I have also tried it within 30 seconds of key on to no avail.

The bigger issues are if 2004 models do not come with Bluetooth, why do I have the Bluetooth antenna? If I have Bluetooth, what won't it pair?

big bob 09-21-2010 11:22 AM

You may have a WDCT capable TCU. You need to read the part number off the TCU. Tehre is a list of BT compatible TCUs floating around on Google. It will have a BT sticker on it, but don't let that fool you into thinking it supports HFP/HSP, it may only support the wireless BMW handset.

gregorio 09-21-2010 11:27 AM

Wireless BMW handset? Now there is something new to me! Thanks Bob!

Time to tear open the rear cargo area and document everything, I guess. Here I thought this would be easy. Sheesh!

big bob 09-21-2010 11:34 AM

Worst case you are going to need to budget $150 ish for a newer iBus TCU.

gregorio 09-21-2010 11:36 AM

Cool! So, you think the ULF is appropriate? I hear that item is over $650 new. Will swapping for a later TCU cause me to lose any functionality? I have read that although less expensive some features are lacking.

Sorry for all the questions. I am still trying to make some sense of this thing.
Greg

big bob 09-21-2010 11:41 AM

Depends. Do you have an SES module?
http://www.xoutpost.com/attachments/...-x5-82cf_1.jpg (mine is black)

ULF - BT plus voice control of nav and phone
TCU (post 2005 ish) - BT plus BMW Assist, plus voice control of phone
SES - voice control of nav and phone (blue plug)

ULF with SES will fight, SES with TCU with voice enabled will fight.


Navcoder can disable voice control in TCU or ULF.

SES jumper can be used and SES module sold.

gregorio 12-21-2010 01:39 AM

My X5 did a crazy thing today - it paired with my iPhone and my Curve! I pulled into the driveway and before I shut her off, I accidently pressed the button to activate the phone. When I saw the message in the display, I thought "what the hell" and gave it a try. I checked my phone and the BMW showed up! I found the PK card, typed it in and it downloaded my address book! SUCCESS!

I got out and grabbed the curve from inside the house and it failed to see the car. I gave up because I had to make a quick trip and take my daughter to the store but while she was inside, I tried again and it worked this time! SUCCESS!

I still can't figure out why it took dozens of tries to get them to pair. The ONLY thing I can think of is that both times I was successful I had my seatbelt on! If I can come up with a third phone to try, I'll test this theory. I will not risk removing one of my already paired phones. :)

jcreme 01-17-2011 04:31 PM

Haha! BMW only supports talking on the phone when you are driving!

Glad you got it to work!

big bob 01-17-2011 06:43 PM

Oh yeah X5 ULF needs the seatbelt to be in to do the pairing. It's so obscure I had forgotten, but it's buried in one piece of the paperwork I have downloaded from somewhere.
Quote:

PAIRING PROCEDURE E46/E83/E85/E53
Turn Key off and then to KL-R or KL-15.
1.The vehicle is ready for pairing for the first 2 minutes of key on.

2.If the R/T button on the MFL is pressed, "Activate Phone" appears on the MID or Board Monitor. For the E53 X5 the seatbelt needs to be plugged in and the R/T button pressed on the MFL and "Activate Phone" appears in the Instrument Cluster.

3.During the pairing process, depending on equipment, the indicator lights on MID or Board Monitor display flash.

4.Your mobile phone should now be set to search for BT devices. See the Owner's Manual for your handset.

5.A request to enter a password, PIN, or code appears on the handset display, depending on your model.

6.Enter the 'BLUETOOTH PASSKEY" (supplied with the vehicle literature), using the numerical keys on the handset and confirm the input. Look for a confirmation message on the handset.
7.To conclude the pairing process, turn the key off.

8.Wait approximately 30 seconds before turning the key back on. The phone will now be connected when the key is turned on. It may take several minutes to initially load the phone book stored in the handset depending on the number of entries.
source:E46 TCU paring.pdf SI B84 13 04 May 2005.


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