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Old 09-01-2013, 11:31 AM
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Exclamation Do NOT use NAPA Tire & Wheel cleaner!!!!

Just giving everyone a heads up...

The NAPA Tire & Wheel cleaner, NAPA AUTO PARTS, damaged my custom rims.

After several uses on my black powder coated rims it ate right through the finish and etched my wheels to where it looked like someone poured milk on the rims and let it run down. There was no fix and I had to have my rims re-powder coated.

I wrote to NAPA but seriously doubt they'll even write back (if they do, it'll most likely be "Gee, we're sorry. Thanks for shopping at NAPA").

From now on, it's car soap and water ONLY on my newly powder coated rims.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:07 PM
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Try Sonax wheel cleaner, its non acidic and it does a great job!!

btw: went to google maps and didnt find you waving ((
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Old 09-03-2013, 09:05 AM
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And this is why we have a sponsor like Detailers Domain that stocks products that will NOT harm your wheels.

Sonax works great, also Adam's has "Deep Wheel Cleaner" which works very similarly and is on sale on DD website, and Einszett has "Colourtec Wheel Cleaner" which is buy 3 get 1 free, also sold on DD. All 3 products look to work pretty similarly to me, I'm sure Sonax does not hold a patent on their formula.

Sorry you had to get your wheels re-powdercoated but I learned 10 years ago not to use auto store grade wheel cleaners, after I had issues with clear coat peel on the lips of my wheels.
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:57 PM
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Just giving everyone a heads up...

The NAPA Tire & Wheel cleaner, NAPA AUTO PARTS, damaged my custom rims.

After several uses on my black powder coated rims it ate right through the finish and etched my wheels to where it looked like someone poured milk on the rims and let it run down. There was no fix and I had to have my rims re-powder coated.

I wrote to NAPA but seriously doubt they'll even write back (if they do, it'll most likely be "Gee, we're sorry. Thanks for shopping at NAPA").

From now on, it's car soap and water ONLY on my newly powder coated rims.
Sorry to dig this up, but I was reading your post and wanted to chime in.

What most likely happened was the result of a reaction between the alkaline and the anodized finish on your rims.

Lots of custom wheels like Work and SSR and Fuchs use clear anodizing instead of regular clear coat paint.

I used Poorboy's Wheel Cleaner as it said it was safe for aftermarket alloy wheels and it did pretty much exactly what you're describing to my brand new 3-piece SSR 20's....



There are some cleaners that say they are safe for anodized wheels. Meguiars has one I'm pretty sure. But it's safest to just do as you are doing now, and stick to warm water and soap.
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Old 10-05-2014, 11:13 PM
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My wheels were powder coated, not anodized.
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Old 10-05-2014, 11:16 PM
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Ah sorry, missed that.

Disappointing result then.

Luckily for me I only ruined 1 of my $2000 wheels.....not four.
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Old 10-06-2014, 10:04 AM
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I still don't understand why its 2014 and with all the pH neutral iron attacking wheel cleaners on the market why wheel acids are still being used. Sure it is sometimes needed in extremely hammered situations for a detail (as in one of your customers hasn't cleaned their car in a wheel and a year of brake dust might need breaking up), but even then, acid cleaners such as Meg's Wheel Brightener etc advertise that they are not for use on non-clear coated wheels.

Always start with safest method first (soap + water, with a little APC mixed in if you need some extra bite), then try a wheel cleaner like Sonax FE+ if needed. Step up to a wheel acid if they are extremely terrible.

Afterwards you should be able to seal the wheels with paint sealant (non matte finishes) and clean with soap and water for maintenance.
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I don't use the Napa brand wheel cleaner but thanks for the heads up.
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Another product to avoid for those with uncoated aluminium wheels is Turtle Wax Jet Black. It's a 2 product tire/rubber treatment (spray on oil/silicone/dressing stripper and foam applicator sealer).

When I tried the stripper to remove the mold release film from new tires, the polished aluminium rim immidately turned grey/black. The black WOULD NOT polish out with Mothers Alum Polish or Nev-R-Dull wadding polish!!!!

It actually etched the aluminium so deep I had to jack up the rear of the X, chock the front wheels, run engine in 1st gear with DSC off and 320/600/800/1200/2000/3000 wetsand/Nev-R-Dull polish both rear wheels to remove the damage.

The box even SHOWS a tire mounted on what appears to be an aluminium wheel!!!!

NOT A WORD OF WARNING THAT THE PRODUCT SHOULD NOT BE USED ON BARE ALUMINIUM ON THE BOX........THANKS TURTLE WAX!!!
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Old 10-30-2014, 11:30 AM
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Another product to avoid for those with uncoated aluminium wheels is Turtle Wax Jet Black. It's a 2 product tire/rubber treatment (spray on oil/silicone/dressing stripper and foam applicator sealer).

When I tried the stripper to remove the mold release film from new tires, the polished aluminium rim immidately turned grey/black. The black WOULD NOT polish out with Mothers Alum Polish or Nev-R-Dull wadding polish!!!!

It actually etched the aluminium so deep I had to jack up the rear of the X, chock the front wheels, run engine in 1st gear with DSC off and 320/600/800/1200/2000/3000 wetsand/Nev-R-Dull polish both rear wheels to remove the damage.

The box even SHOWS a tire mounted on what appears to be an aluminium wheel!!!!

NOT A WORD OF WARNING THAT THE PRODUCT SHOULD NOT BE USED ON BARE ALUMINIUM ON THE BOX........THANKS TURTLE WAX!!!

Wow I just saw this post and am appalled. Another reason why I stopped buying products in the big box stores years ago.

My buddy Naz24 made a post recently after using Lucas Tire Shine and it left stains in his clearcoat from the chemical in there (I forget what it was off the top of my head but it was on the MSDS)

Compound, etc on a machine wouldn't touch the stains, they are etched.

You should NEVER use a wheel acid unless you're working on wheels that haven't been touched in years. And even then, I only recommend Meg's Wheel Brightener.

For wheels that need some heavy buildup removed, an All Purpose Cleaner such as Meguiars or Adams would work.

For any maintenance cleanings, on wheels that have been protected with wax/sealant, just Car Shampoo and water and various brushes/mitts etc should clean up wheels just fine.

For tires, used WATER-based dressings only to avoid any issues with wheel finishes, personally my favorite is Adam's Super VRT as its more of a lotion, but gives more of a natural rubber look (low satin gloss). If you like shiny tires Meg's makes a good dressing as well.
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