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Old 11-09-2006, 08:03 PM
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BMW's Diesel strategy in North America

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:26 PM
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Good info, thanks for the link. Sounds like they will be continuing with the bovine urine injection strategy. If anyone says it is BS, you an reply no, it is cow piss
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Hijack...sort of...but how can five states have 85% of the BMW market? Texas and Florida aren't in top five?
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I don't understand why Benz and BMW are going down the SCR route. We simply don't have the infrastructure to support it. We do not have urea stations at the gas station like they do in Europe. When much larger diesels made by companies like MAN and Scania are able to use EGR for Euro 5 emissions, why can't BMW? I hope they're adopting the next-gen injector-systems that Audi/VW are using which are capable of much higher pressures.
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wait, so when you would go to the gas station you would have to get diesel and urea? - so you would have to fill up 2 tanks? whats the point in that?
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Hijack...sort of...but how can five states have 85% of the BMW market? Texas and Florida aren't in top five?
May be people in Texas and FL don't buy many BMW's as they do in other states. I can undertsand about CA, NY, NJ and CT. Don't know about MA.
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Hijack...sort of...but how can five states have 85% of the BMW market? Texas and Florida aren't in top five?

That's quite simple to answer....

BMW doesn't make BIG trucks... if you're in TX, you're buying a super duty F150 or you're going home.

BMW /= Cadillac.... lots o retirement folks in FL that want their Cadi's and Lincolns.
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wait, so when you would go to the gas station you would have to get diesel and urea? - so you would have to fill up 2 tanks? whats the point in that?
That's how it is in Europe.
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wait, so when you would go to the gas station you would have to get diesel and urea? - so you would have to fill up 2 tanks? whats the point in that?
Only way they know to comply with North American vehicle emissions standards. The delay in diesel introductions is because while they can comply with the standards on day 1 of a new vehicle being on the road, they can't comply over the full vehicle life covered by the regulations (100,000 or thereabouts).

Urea injection doesn't really use a tank like the diesel, it is more similar to a windshield washer reservoir. There will be sensors to ensure that if owners let it go dry (and thus pollute) that the vehicle disables itself with an engine code. Mercedes has used a replaceable canister instead of a reservoir, with the same net effect.

There are a lot of questions as to how this will work in the real world, and that is what has delayed the introduction of the diesel BMWs. It appears that they are moving off the fence, but slowly, if only the 5 series range is getting diesels to start.
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wait, so when you would go to the gas station you would have to get diesel and urea? - so you would have to fill up 2 tanks? whats the point in that?

You guys are too funny!

Having lived in Europe I have never seen a Urea pump next to a diesel pump. I have seen the odd cow so maybe you have to pump it yourself!
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