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Old 12-01-2009, 09:47 AM
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I bought three new Vipers in the last 10 years. The first ('99 RT/10) was from Nalley in Atlanta. I didn't know about the Viper club, and went in completely uneducated. I paid MSRP, and traded in a Ferrari. I got what I wanted for the trade, so I was happy...until joining the Viper club. The next two (2002 GTS, 2003 SRT-10) I got from Woodhouse Dodge in BLAIR NEBRASKA! Delivered to my door in SC for about $10K under MSRP. Joining a local club saved me a lot of money, just like knowing about this BMW forum.

The dealers are counting on another 'me' in 1999. They know thier yearly allocation and how long they can sit on a model before giving up on the dream of selling to a sucker. Hey, it's a free market, let the buyer beware. Salespeople HATE an educated buyer!
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It depends on the market/area. Here in Southern California many dealers are still adding market adjustments in the range of 5-10k. It is a bit ridiculous, anyone should be able to negotiate below MSRP though.
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The salesman said they would deal. And if it is still sitting their in January, they could knock of a couple of grand.
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It depends on the market/area. Here in Southern California many dealers are still adding market adjustments in the range of 5-10k. It is a bit ridiculous, anyone should be able to negotiate below MSRP though.
Agreed.

I got $4,000 off MSRP on a new build X6M here in Dallas. Also, dealers are willing to let demos go for $1500 over invoice.

...just an FYI.
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:28 AM
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Dealers in my part of the world will routinely give a $1000 off an ordered car.
Better ones will up it to $3,000-$5,000. I like to give my business to the ones that give a decent discount right up front and not play negotiating games.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:22 AM
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Those markups are there to discourage you from the idea that you should get a price under MSRP.

In other words, if you saw a price of 90K you would be temped to actually try to get the vehicle for 85K. But just by putting this sign on the car, they almost assure that you will feel that you didn't get poked in the rear when you pay MSRP. It is a good ploy by the dealers.

If enough of you walked out as soon as you saw that add on sticker, they would stop doing it. But consumers are not that wise.

This is how they were able to get 10K over MSRP for the first Miata's. People had to have it, so they paid what the dealer demanded. The next year, they sold for 13K or less.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:39 AM
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Let's list the cars we have seen with outrageous dealer markups:

Acura NSX - first ones roped off in the showrooms, no test drives, no sitting in it!
1984 Pontiac Fiero - I remember +$2500
First Mazda RX7's - dealer told me "we can sell every one we get at +$2000
1992 Vipers
First Corvette ZR1


How about the first BMW Z3's?
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The salesman said they would deal. And if it is still sitting their in January, they could knock of a couple of grand.
Which dealer?
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I ordered mine for a few K off of MSRP...people are willing to negotiate
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Let's list the cars we have seen with outrageous dealer markups:

Acura NSX - first ones roped off in the showrooms, no test drives, no sitting in it!
1984 Pontiac Fiero - I remember +$2500
First Mazda RX7's - dealer told me "we can sell every one we get at +$2000
1992 Vipers
First Corvette ZR1


How about the first BMW Z3's?
Ford GT
Porsche Turbo
Porsche GT3RS
Porsche GT2
Ferrari F430
M5
M6
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