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$75 for reinforcment plate bolts and nuts?
I've read number of postings stating that bolts are one time use and have to be replaced since they stretch after initial torque. I've also read some postings that set costs about $30 which is not even close to current price. Qty 6 - 31101096987 - bolts Qty 6 - 33306760587 - nuts Well, they're about $75 for 6 bolts and 6 nuts and that's about the best price out there. I was wondering if anybody has found high grade bolt that'd would do for less money. I like to follow manufactures procedure but that's 50% cost of actual starter and while I'll buy them if I have to, I was wondering if there is a different solution. Thanks in advance for any info.
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Ill also pull my records to see if I can find the prices I paid but think I was close to the $60-70 range IIRC. 04Hex bolt with washerM10X55631101096987$3.53 05Hex nut wiht flangeM10-10 ZNS3633306760587$0.78 |
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I use this dealer and nobody touches their prices but even they come at $75 before shipping: BMW Parts and Accessories I'm not a cheapskate but I'm convinced I can find higher grade bolts and nuts than OEM for probably under $30 when bought form reputable online metric bolts store. I suspect that astronomical price has something to do with limited stock quantities. Thanks.
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The prices have gone nuts. They used to be $3-4 each, which was still pricey, but not worth the trouble of finding an alternative.
Those bolts are M10 x 55mm long. Grade 10.9. I think there is space for a slightly longer bolt - 60mm should be fine. On McMaster-Carr, a M10 x 60mm flange-head cap screw in grade 10.9, Zinc plated to JIS standards, is $7.58 for 10. (part number 95735A661). This is 1.25 mm thread pitch, so you would have to pick a matching nut with the same thread pitch.
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We have a bolt and nut supply place here in SLC Utah that I can buy those from. There nothing more than a bolt that meets a spec so you can buy those from anywhere that sells that spec of bolt. I think I was quoted about 10.00 for all of them or so.
Here is they are if you do not have a similar place near you. Maybe you can ask them to ship them to you. Bolt & Nut Supply Co.: Homepage
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I'm simply seeing no issues with using what you're suggesting and what I sort of had in my mind. It'd be a different story if the OEM bolts were some extremely precious material in astronomically high grade and exposed to extreme forces. I'll check out the site you suggested. Thanks. By the way, if anybody needs it, RockAuto has Bosch remanufactured starter with 2 year warranty for $140 shipped after discount. $65 for the core and after shipping back, total cost is probably around $150. I just bought mine there.
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These were around $20 when I needed them 2 yrs ago.
4 x price increase is unreal!
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The other option is to reuse old bolts. I expect many members here to disagree, but I asked few local BMW shops here in Maryland, and all of them just reuse these bolts. I reuse them myself after careful inspection. They assembled without a problem and I hope they will perform well is case of collision. By inspection i meant to check them the same way mechanics check head bolts - using caliper to insure that they were not stretched.
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Just to play it safe I'll probably go with 10.9 grade M10X60 from Ace Hardware of all places. It's about $25 for 6 flanged bolts and 6 flanged nuts. I've checked online and some local places and $25 is about cheapest for 10.9 grade. Obviously, I'll check first that 5mm extra is non to long but I'm almost certain that it's not.
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It's not at all unusual for manufacturers to start upping the price on less-common spares as vehicle age increases. There is one very simple reason behind this tactic, and it's used world-wide....if the price goes up, people stop buying. If people stop buying, they don't have to stock anywhere near as many. And since by far one of the largest costs a vehicle manufacturer incurs is spares warehousing and distribution, they are "letting" consumers find other, cheaper sources for some parts.
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