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Old 10-15-2015, 03:52 PM
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Buy another key, you need one anyway and it will likely resolve your no start problem.

About $145 shipped to your front door.

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Sean used to be the contact there, not sure if he is still there. You will need to Fax/PDF a copy of your license & registration as proof of ownership.

Key will be shipped cut to fit locks and will start the engine assuming there are no other problems.
I agree that another key would be helpful, I'm not sure it will resolve the issue. The GT1 analysis suggested that the key is ok as the GT1 was able to see the key, read it, and examine it and returned a no issue or error msg.

The problem that needs to be corrected is a re-alignment of the DME and EWS communication. That't what I hope to do next and if that fails, I will go the 2nd key route.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:02 PM
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Perhaps the EWS module is bad, that is why the DME can't communicate with it. When you guys scanned the X, did you scan the individual modules? I know that with BMW Scanner 1.4 you can scan the individual modules. I believe Carsoft 6.5 also allows you to scan individual modules.
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Old 10-18-2015, 10:03 AM
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Perhaps the EWS module is bad, that is why the DME can't communicate with it. When you guys scanned the X, did you scan the individual modules? I know that with BMW Scanner 1.4 you can scan the individual modules. I believe Carsoft 6.5 also allows you to scan individual modules.
I believe Junkycosmos did test them and they were ok. I've ordered the GT1 software from eBay and waiting for delivery. It contains the option to sync the DME and EWS.

I will retest them again before syncing to make sure. Thanks!
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Heya X5Ghost,
Sorry I completely missed that you had updated here and I was wondering about the latest progress!

Yes, confirmed we did scan all modules in the car (via Gt1) and the only persistent errors that remained after clearing the list of way old stored codes were

1: DSC : 5EB1 DSC Steering angle sensor supply
2: 27A4: EWS 3.3 interface engine management immobilizer - no EWS telegram

All else looked clean and clear.


I agree the idea of trying to:
EWS to sync to DME

Was just reading through that pdf you posted here and will plugin to see if I can find those options in software.

Also been seeing that some strange things happens on low battery voltage with these cars so we may want to plugin in a 2nd battery or ultra clean power charger during sync.

Will ping you back or post here with what I see.

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Found this on Youtube. Poster had the same problem. If you read the comments, the solution was a New Key.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6_QgOJ_7c
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Hmmm... a new key you say?
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Agreed a new key would be a good thing too since that starts a lot of the sync processes over and it is always also a great idea.

I do have my doubts given that it did read the key on INPA however I hope that my skill (or lack there of in software here) is obvious.


Ghost,
I did just look in Programan SSS v32 that I have found it not to exactly follow those directions you posted.

Bonus: I did finally turn off my day time running lights!

From link above
Using Progman to synchronize the DME to the car:
1. Follow steps 1 -4 of the previous procedure.
2. Open the Progman application.
3. Choose your car and chassis.
4. Wait a few minutes for the Progman to collect the ZCS values.
5. When it asks for retrots select NO.
6. Select EWS Calibration
7. Click YES to start the calibration
8. Turn the car’s key to the OFF position and click continue
9. Wait 25 se conds.
10. Turn the car’s key to the ON position and click continue
11. Click Finish
12. Start the car

on Programan SSS v32
Step 5 does come up and there is no direct option to select step 6 EWS however I did find something called "EWS Adjustment"

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Also not related to EWS I found Steering Angle Calibration under
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I just took another look in GT1 and found the steps to sync EWS and DME. It's buried under service functions.

Here were the steps I found it at, there might be a shorter way
Connect GT1
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Do usual quick scan
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Control Unit Functions button on bottom right

Function Selections button on bottom left

Choose Service > Drive > Electric Car Immobilizer DME then
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Select DME schedule row on bottom section of screen then
click green arrow button on bottom right

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Hmmm... a new key you say?
The youtube video guy had the same error code, but he had a no crank no start situation.
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Junkycosmos, looks like you found the sync option in the GT1, this is great! I hope this resolves the issue otherwise, next step will be ordering a new key. Thx for all of those who provided Info on all fronts.

Will keep the forum updated so hopefully this helps someone else.

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The youtube video guy had the same error code, but he had a no crank no start situation.
Correct, I have crank but no start. Key seems to be recognized thus cranking.

Feels like Crytalworks is hoping it's a key issue and if it was, probably wants me to eat my shoe
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