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Old 10-13-2016, 01:09 PM
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Tiag -

I recall you posting this once or twice on this .....
I redid mine - same year, just to be proactive about it.
Isn't the root cause the plastic guides though - age...
It seems like forever. When I removed mind, the guides were not shot but the plastic was brittle
Also keep in mind the quality of oil and frequency of oil changes highly effects the guides going brittle and breaking. My brother's M62 in his 540 6-speed has 240K on original guides. He always does his oil changes between 4-5K miles with Motul Synthetic.
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To see degree on oil, I agree but any syn, IMO can easily go 6500 miles as long as it's not seeing severe service (aka, never driven more than a few miles on frequency).

Plastic is plastic. It's all a gamble/risk on when one decides to change it
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Old 10-13-2016, 04:15 PM
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Hi BCredliner.
I sold new cars for a number of years. Everything we did was to make $. I stopped selling cars because of the industry. A lack of morals or ethics abound. I could not be part of it any longer. So, I then sold yachts. I experienced a whole new lack of morals and ethics. I stayed even shorter amount of a time.

My point was yes, they pointed out good things but not one of the big 3. At this age/mileage, they should have asked I think, if they cared about the life of the rig or my wallet.

The "salesman" is anyone trying to get you to do or buy something. In life, we're all salesman if we try to convince another. I just urge people to understand the motivation of a suggestion before blindly going forth. This same BMW dealership charges my "brilliant" sister-in-law a hefty sum to add coolant. I take care of her car now but they also convinced her that she needed to buy brakes (disk and pads) every time she bought new tires. She didn't mind because they gave her a loaner for a few days. Not a great trade off in my opinion but it worked for her.

My car having an "m" badge on the back when I bought it and today when it's not an m5 reminds me that I forgot to question the sellers, friends of ours, and got duped. I was so sure it was what they and my "mechanic" said it was that I paid full retail. I'll change the badge once the build is complete but for now it's my badge of shame.
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You have an '03 M62 motor Plattus1000, BMW built these engines with redesigned/longer chain tensioners.

I'm over 200k miles on OE guides.
Time bomb. Our guides let go @ 170k don't fool yourself. The longer tentioner is the lower plunger and it has a spring that compresses and oil to extend it but like everything, wears out.

Do your guides now not after they force the need.
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Just took a good look at the steering wheel before it get's replace tomorrow...

From the 3 oclock - 9 oclock position, the reveal seems quite tight.
From 9-3, it is larger, but not as large as the OP pic.
Granted.....when you take a zoomed up photo like the OP did, sometimes it looks bigger than in real life.
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Actually, it looks bigger in person, I couldn't capture it in 3 shots. It caught my eye right off the bat from about 3' away. It isn't horrible but not what I was expecting. I assumed it would look new but fit like the original. No big I suppose. I needed something to complain about I guess. Not enough bicyclists in my way not obeying the rules that day or something.
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Just took a good look at the steering wheel before it get's replace tomorrow...

From the 3 oclock - 9 oclock position, the reveal seems quite tight.
From 9-3, it is larger, but not as large as the OP pic.
Granted.....when you take a zoomed up photo like the OP did, sometimes it looks bigger than in real life.
Yake a before shot now and the exact same shot after.
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They suggested A repair to the gasket (less than 9 months old) for a, I hesitate to call it a leak. Oil seepage? Barely visable. They only wanted $2,400 to do it. I guess it takes 15 hours and hundreds of dollars for the gasket...

One other thing I'd like to mention: As they did the inspection on our X with 181k on the clock, they noted the tiniest things that weren't important. The CV boots had cracks, oil dampness on the edge of the guide cover you can hardly see... Etc, etc.

You would think that they might have asked if the timing chain guides had been replaced seeing as how at this milage/age you're driving a rolling time bomb if you haven't. They did not.
I'll assume that they hope the guides will fail and boom, new car sale or money for a new car for them to repair it when it lets go
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Never, never trust the salesperson unless you fully understand their motivation.
cracked CV boots aren't anything to ignore. They'll let all the grease out and the CV will fail as will the wheel bearing if it goes long enough. Very expensive repair.

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cracked CV boots aren't anything to ignore. They'll let all the grease out and the CV will fail as will the wheel bearing if it goes long enough. Very expensive repair.
Tes BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE INQUIRED ABOUT THE 3 WEAK POINTS was my point.
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Hi BCredliner.
I sold new cars for a number of years. Everything we did was to make $. I stopped selling cars because of the industry. A lack of morals or ethics abound. I could not be part of it any longer. So, I then sold yachts. I experienced a whole new lack of morals and ethics. I stayed even shorter amount of a time.

My point was yes, they pointed out good things but not one of the big 3. At this age/mileage, they should have asked I think, if they cared about the life of the rig or my wallet.

The "salesman" is anyone trying to get you to do or buy something. In life, we're all salesman if we try to convince another. I just urge people to understand the motivation of a suggestion before blindly going forth. This same BMW dealership charges my "brilliant" sister-in-law a hefty sum to add coolant. I take care of her car now but they also convinced her that she needed to buy brakes (disk and pads) every time she bought new tires. She didn't mind because they gave her a loaner for a few days. Not a great trade off in my opinion but it worked for her.

My car having an "m" badge on the back when I bought it and today when it's not an m5 reminds me that I forgot to question the sellers, friends of ours, and got duped. I was so sure it was what they and my "mechanic" said it was that I paid full retail. I'll change the badge once the build is complete but for now it's my badge of shame.
A M badge is never a badge of Shame, even if it's not a real M car.

I had M sill plates on my Touring, along with throwing stars wheel on it.
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