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Old 03-09-2017, 10:01 PM
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Vegas: 1, Mike: 0. At least 2 sets of my new JL C2-600's showed up. Nice looking hardware.

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Old 03-09-2017, 11:44 PM
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Looks to me and sounds to me (as of today) that the rear doors have tweeters. Tomorrow's surgery will reveal the specifics and confirmed answer.
WAY interested in what you learned here. Since I did the exact opposite order as you- I haven't removed the front panels yet- I can offer this:

The ElCheapo Amazon 2.75" fit inside the rear OE plastic mount with some dremel sanding. The rear OE plastic mount looks *completely* different from the pics you posted- which I believe are the same mounts as the E53 rear doors. Yeah. That's confusing. E46 front mids are the same as E53 rears? I dunno know yet cause I haven't done *mine*. But I can say that the front pics you showed are the same as the my E53 rear door mids.

I replaced the E46 left rear mid location with a component tweeter from the rear deck at first. I never liked the sound. In fact, the passenger sounded so much better with the HK unit that I left it.

Today was the day that I removed the JL tweeter from the rear driver's side and replaced it with the Amazons. In testing, the new one sounded WAY better than both the JL tweeter AND the OE HK from the other side. I was so motivated, that I pulled the other door and mounted the Amazon speaker there as well. I will admit: I was not motivated by the sound. I just wanted to be done, really. The result is a major improvement over ripped up OE HK's in the doors. It would have to be, I suppose.

This weekend, I will replace the front speakers with component JL mids and tweeters at the A pillars. I *expect* to replace the smaller front door mids with the Memphis audio units that were delivered today. As the silicon on all of that is curing, I intend to run sound deadening all over the E46 front doors.

My hope also is never to see the inside of these damn doors again.

And of course... to use the learnings from this experience to finish up the E53. I'll start by wrapping all the doors in GTMat. I am not 100% sure, but I do have an extra set of Memphis Audio mids. I *may* drop those in place of the JL tweets I put in there. The sound difference in those and the Amazon units from the E46 is enough to have me 2nd guessing my choices there.

It's the time of the year when we start the early Spring home projects. I already replaced a multizone speaker amp and room volume controls for whole home and outside audio. Today, I had the alarm company replace the controller so I could test and report on it over the older one. (ZWave/SmartHome controller) I also met today with the stone mason and a heavy lifter for landscaping.

I need to get to a stopping place on these damn vehicles so I can focus on Summer fun at home!
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:08 AM
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Hi Prop,

I didn't get to the E46 rear door mid/tweeter??? today, looks like tomorrow for the big reveal.

Yeah, I hear you on getting these car projects finished up. I'm planning a rear suspension makeover on the E53 maybe next month and a fuel pump.

Maybe change out the 120K E46 fuel pump this month and then I'm gonna call it good for a while and enjoy driving them.

Stay tuned.

PS: I can confirm that the E46 front mid housings are the same design as the E53 rears.

At this moment I'm giving some thought to going with a 4ohm mid in my E46 rear doors, just thinking about only touching that rear door card once.

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Today was the day that I removed the JL tweeter from the rear driver's side and replaced it with the Amazons. In testing, the new one sounded WAY better than both the JL tweeter AND the OE HK from the other side.
I had a feeling that a mid range speaker would sound better/fuller in the rear door instead of a tweeter, especially since the crossover is tuned for a mid range and not tweeter


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Old 03-10-2017, 10:18 AM
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I had a feeling that a mid range speaker would sound better/fuller in the rear door instead of a tweeter, especially since the crossover is tuned for a mid range and not tweeter


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OK, I'm convinced.

I bought the Amazon mids last night for my E46 rear doors and if I like them, I'll put them in the front doors as well. They are 4 ohms which will be a lot closer to the 3 ohm OE units and won't take as much power to drive.

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OK, I'm convinced.

I bought the Amazon mids last night for my E46 rear doors and if I like them, I'll put them in the front doors as well. They are 4 ohms which will be a lot closer to the 3 ohm OE units and won't take as much power to drive.
Well, Dammit.

Now *I'm* convinced! I'm going to replace the rear JL tweeters I put in the rear doors with the extra pair of Memphis Audio mids delivered yesterday. You people suck.
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So both Fountek and Memphis Audio mid ranges are being run in cars. Has anyone bought the Vifa brand?

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Old 03-10-2017, 01:52 PM
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Jay has (X5Jay4.8is) - he is putting them in his rear doors -
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For me, the more I think about it and listen to the Founteks over the last couple of days, the more I think the 8ohms is a liability to my E46 front door mids.

To my ears, they really do not carry enough punch to give a good enough mid-range blend unless the volume is punched up a good bit.

For this reason, more and more I am looking forward to the 4ohm Amazon mids to hear their punch in the rear doors.

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^^I agree with you Mike - I recommend the Fountek's for replacement of other 8ohm drivers like in our E53 midranges - had I known the HK system was 3ohm I would not recommend - Basically you need to give double the input to have the same output as the factory driver, its not doing your upgrade any favors -

I would have recommended the 65mm Vifa/Peerless midwoofers that Jay purchased and also recommended on the E46 boards -

Maybe Mike (Clockwork) would take the Fountek's off your hands
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