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Old 01-10-2017, 07:49 AM
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Aloha, and welcome to the forum.

There's a guy that can replace the battery on your key fob. Although you can try replacing it yourself, most people who try this end up ruining the key because to open the case requires a knife to cut the case and if you are not careful you will end up damaging the circuit board.

Once you have a working remote you can code the window feature so that you can use the key fob to lower or raise all the windows. This is nice if you ever break a door carrier and need to get into the truck.

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Old 01-10-2017, 08:09 AM
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Don't need a working fob to lower windows: turn the key to unlock and hold it there. Windows all go down. Bonus when using key in the lock: you can also roll them BACK UP! (Default) : you can code to roll up with the key fob but not standard


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Old 01-10-2017, 08:13 AM
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I'm sure he's been using his key everyday, if it hasn't charged by then…?


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You need to have BOTH keys charged to re-sync them. Most people don't use both keys regularly.


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You need to have BOTH keys charged to re-sync them. Most people don't use both keys regularly.


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Or he could just program the one he uses everyday, assuming it holds a charge that is, for the time being.


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Hey guys.
Thanks for all the info and links. I think we're going to bite the bullet and get a new key from the dealer here in Honolulu. I just called them and they said $234 but at least they will program it for free. And they have to order it.
Worked on the door until I got tired last night but no smoking gun so far that I found. I did not remove the carrier yet or anything besides the door panel and looking around with flashlight to see if I could see what was broken. I did watch some videos on the carrier including one that shows where they fail, it does not look like the carrier has failed from just looking up inside the door, but I ran out of time so I'm going to have to look into it later.
The car came with two keys and neither works. I cut one open yesterday and grabbed a regular 3v battery for it in a desperate attempt to get the car to unlock before I called the locksmith. That didn't work. I tried the resync procedure also to no avail on either key. I'm familiar with using the key to roll down the windows etc. but unfortunately the lock cylinder in the drivers door is completely unresponsive so I can't use a single function it provides, the central locking button on the console is unresponsive as well (can't even unlock the back doors).
So, I think I'm stuck waiting for a new key to come in at the dealer and then taking it to them and hoping that they are able to program the key so I can at least lock/unlock the doors, use the back doors, take advantage of the window-roll down feature of a good working drivers door lock cylinder and then figure out what's wrong with the drivers door!
I will post back with anything I find. Thanks again for all the help!
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YazX5;
I ordered the parts kit for the tumbler from your link and watched the videos. Thanks! I am going to go to the dealer and order a new key so that will help us in the event the tumbler or carrier ever fails on us. I'll also try to program the rolling down the windows feature so I could do that also if it failed. In the meantime, I'll wait for the lock cylinder parts to arrive, fix that and go from there.
The alarm was activated when the locksmith was opening the car, I think it's in "lockdown" mode so that's why the central locking is unresponsive, can't open the back doors and can't resync my existing keys, at least that's what it seems like after all the research.
I'll post back when I get the lock parts fixed and go from there. Thanks again to all! I know it won't be my last time asking for advice for the X5...
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If the vehicle was double locked (locked with remote or using driver's door)...then the only way to unlock the vehicle from inside is to:
  1. press the central lock/unlock button on the console (if battery is dead then obviously this won't work)
  2. this will allow you to pull twice on an interior door handle and the door should open
If you don't follow the procedure above when trying to unlock a BMW built after the 2000 model year from the inside when the car has been double-locked...then the interior door handles will NOT open the doors.


If you have a BMW built BEFORE the 2000 model year...then if the car has been double-locked...then the interior door handles will never work until a recognized key is used in the door lock cylinder, ignition, or with the FBZV (remote keyless) feature. (think about what that means...espeically if the battery is dead)

See 3rd paragraph in the info below...it applies to not only the e38...but the e39/e46/e53 models as well.


If the BMW terminology of DOUBLE-LOCK is unfamiliar to you...and you didn't know or understand why the interior door handles don't work if you double locked the vehicle...see info below:



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Aloha, and welcome to the forum.

There's a guy that can replace the battery on your key fob. Although you can try replacing it yourself, most people who try this end up ruining the key because to open the case requires a knife to cut the case and if you are not careful you will end up damaging the circuit board.
I used that guy and it was well worth the $50 for him to repair the key, he says in most cases it's NOT the battery.
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Does anyone have the key guys contact info?
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His name is Scott IIRC:

https://www.bmwgm5.com/Key_Repair.htm
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