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Old 03-21-2018, 11:52 AM
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If you connected the wires you ran from the front to the back to the red and black wires themselves on the cable that has those two wise then you don't do anything with the red wire on the rca that has that single red wire.
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If you connected the wires you ran from the front to the back to the red and black wires themselves on the cable that has those two wise then you don't do anything with the red wire on the rca that has that single red wire.
well as I believe I said I have powered up that red wire with the rca from the same feed as the camera via the cable I ran to the front from the rear hatch area. However I still do not have video. I have the same voltage in the front as the back and the radio does trigger onto back up camera video however I have no video. In addition I cannot figure out why an rca video connection would 12 v.
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Two "quick" wiring questions

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I have two wiring questions while I am working on the problems I caused elsehwere. Someone removed the factory BMW radio and replaced with a JVC when I bought the X5. JVC is coming out and the XTRONS (model PB7653BP) going in. This XTRONS sure appears identical to the Seicane. I bought the Xtrons (from Amazon) before researching this thread. XTRONS documentation is awful. So because the previous owner pulled the factory radio this is not quite plug and play and is taking a slight reverse engineering. This is 90% done being wired and installed right now.

Question 1 - which Seicane/Xtrons wire is for the steering wheel control?
So regarding the photo of all the wires on https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...hread-114.html (page 114 of the thread) for the BMW connector: At the top left there is a blue wire on the left and green wire on the right (left bank of wires the radio operations; right bank for speakers). The question is - is the green wire for the steering wheel control or the "KEY1" brown wire that is loose/seperate from the connector? Or am I wrong on both :-)? The XTRONS comes with the CANBUS decoder as pictured.


Question 2 - where did you pick up a signal/wire from for the radio illumination? I saw one post designating BMW-Gray/Red for nighttime illumination (I see this on the Blue BMW factory connector) so I think this is correct however there was another Black wire mentioned on that thread for "background illumination" and I don't want to screw up. https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...ml#post1124010

I tried my best to search on these and could not find this previously answered to the letter. Thanks! -Todd
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:25 PM
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For Crowz (or anyone else might know)...

I have two wiring questions while I am working on the problems I caused elsehwere. Someone removed the factory BMW radio and replaced with a JVC when I bought the X5. JVC is coming out and the XTRONS (model PB7653BP) going in. This XTRONS sure appears identical to the Seicane. I bought the Xtrons (from Amazon) before researching this thread. XTRONS documentation is awful. So because the previous owner pulled the factory radio this is not quite plug and play and is taking a slight reverse engineering. This is 90% done being wired and installed right now.

Question 1 - which Seicane/Xtrons wire is for the steering wheel control?
So regarding the photo of all the wires on https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...hread-114.html (page 114 of the thread) for the BMW connector: At the top left there is a blue wire on the left and green wire on the right (left bank of wires the radio operations; right bank for speakers). The question is - is the green wire for the steering wheel control or the "KEY1" brown wire that is loose/seperate from the connector? Or am I wrong on both :-)? The XTRONS comes with the CANBUS decoder as pictured.


Question 2 - where did you pick up a signal/wire from for the radio illumination? I saw one post designating BMW-Gray/Red for nighttime illumination (I see this on the Blue BMW factory connector) so I think this is correct however there was another Black wire mentioned on that thread for "background illumination" and I don't want to screw up. https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...ml#post1124010

I tried my best to search on these and could not find this previously answered to the letter. Thanks! -Todd
Plug #1 that's labeled "power connector" is where the canbus and the illumination is done. I didn't have to wire any of that with the Seicane. Basically plug that big connector in using the extension cable to the back since mine was a factory nav car and run one single wire to the back to power the amp. That was it.

Anything else I ran or connected wiring was to connect the ibus, backup camera, tv module and such. Basic radio functions, illumination, steering wheel controls and even reverse gear sensing all happened just by plugging in that large connector #1.
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Ok - fully operational radio at this point. I tested further and my assumptions on the Canbus color code from my previous post and ILL wire were correct. I hate when people who don't know what they're doing take out stock/oem stuff and hack it up :-). So this was "almost" plug and play.

Which leads me to my next issue. It appears the person who installed the JVC unit removed the DSP, amp, radio, whatever -was- in the trunk. It's gutted.
The Xtrons sounds very good and better than the JVC but I am thinking that the stock guts in the trunk were serving as a crossover in part to correctly send appropriate signals to woofers vs tweeters. The sound is not as clean as I expected. Am I correct in this assumption on crossover? With everything gone I can't tell what this vehicle originally had.

Should I attempt to Ebay some oem guts to help bring back the "Crossover" that was there or is there some advice on this you can lend?
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Ok - fully operational radio at this point. I tested further and my assumptions on the Canbus color code from my previous post and ILL wire were correct. I hate when people who don't know what they're doing take out stock/oem stuff and hack it up :-). So this was "almost" plug and play.

Which leads me to my next issue. It appears the person who installed the JVC unit removed the DSP, amp, radio, whatever -was- in the trunk. It's gutted.
The Xtrons sounds very good and better than the JVC but I am thinking that the stock guts in the trunk were serving as a crossover in part to correctly send appropriate signals to woofers vs tweeters. The sound is not as clean as I expected. Am I correct in this assumption on crossover? With everything gone I can't tell what this vehicle originally had.

Should I attempt to Ebay some oem guts to help bring back the "Crossover" that was there or is there some advice on this you can lend?
Yep the factory amp was acting as a crossover. So yes you can improve things by adding something to take over that job. If I was starting from scratch (gutted like yours is) I would go with aftermarket amps with crossover built in and a sub amp if you want to add a subwoofer. I had planned on doing a $1000 electronic crossover (bitone) in the e53 before the wife kidnapped it. She doesn't like loud music so it will be a bit before I get around to upgrading it further sound wise.
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Without searching the whole thread for pictures, how did you route the harness through the car? I'm thinking of pulling the trim along the doors and running under the carpet on the side but I'm not sure how to pull them off without messing anything up.
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