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Old 12-25-2017, 07:03 PM
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Dragging up an earlier part of this conversation... and it seems that every time I think I have a handle on how these dang Beemers are built etc. I find a new variation or new information. I think I'm just going to shut up now and just watch...

So this bloke (BMW DIY Guy) on Youtube indicates that the radio frame CAN be removed and that there is significant difference between the pre-LCI and the LCI models. Check out from about 6 mins in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiHI...ature=youtu.be

I still can't find a parts listing for the frame as a seperate part - but that may just mean that it's not sold as a seperate part.

Anywho - it looks like it *may* be possible to remove the frame...
Yeah was noticing that

Also he did the "works with dsp" on a mid X5.

So were no closer in knowing how it works with a nav dsp...
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:06 PM
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I can't help but notice that the Eonon GA8166 5meter harness shown on this page

Eonon GA8166 | BMW E53 1999-2005 Android 7.1 Deck 2GB RAM Car Stereo GPS with Bluetooth Music Info Display



The instructions in the install show the harness plugging into the BM54 harness and then another piece of the harness plugging into the BM54 Radio tuner itself. I found this to be interesting in that my install of the GA6166 (Factory NAV only NO DSP) used a 5 meter harness without the need to plug a piece of it into the BM54 radio tuner.



I hope bcredliner can get his DSP system going soon.

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I think if he had of done the nav to mid coding after the initial hook up it would of "just worked". If we can get him back to factory and working right and get back to the initial 20 seconds then quits and then do the coding from nav to mid he will be home free.
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:14 PM
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The dsp compatibility on the avant 3 seems to be the same thing we are doing with the ibus adapter and software since its the SAME software were using.

The avant being double the price when the adapter and software is $50 or $60 seems a bit much to me.

BUT its all ready to go where we have to do a bit of wiring, software install, etc. So for someone who is scared of wiring it looks a bit more attractive.

At the same time he did a mid install which is no harder than plugging in a radio in an e46 aka effortless.

Nav equipped cars are going to be just as much of a wiring pain for the avant 3 as it is for the seicane or any of the other ones since that harness has to be run to the back.

So for nav people I don't see the avant 3 being worth the extra money any way you look at it so far (this is said with a grain a salt so to speak since I don't have a dsp car to do from scratch with a Seicane yet to know exactly how that's going to go.)

If plugging the Seicane model I have in with the ibus adapter makes it just work with a dsp nav setup then it flat out is the best choice just from being half price.
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Old 12-25-2017, 07:16 PM
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I have a feeling PropellerHead is going to be my guinea pig on the dsp nav before its over
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I may be a little slow replying to some stuff for the next day or two. Dental stuff is trying to kill me

Will be visiting the dentist asap but with the holidays I'm betting my hopes of calling in for an appointment tomorrow are wasted.

So I'm a bit out of it and sleeping more than normal. I will respond whenever I wake up from time to time.
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The dsp compatibility on the avant 3 seems to be the same thing we are doing with the ibus adapter and software since its the SAME software were using.

The avant being double the price when the adapter and software is $50 or $60 seems a bit much to me.

BUT its all ready to go where we have to do a bit of wiring, software install, etc. So for someone who is scared of wiring it looks a bit more attractive.

At the same time he did a mid install which is no harder than plugging in a radio in an e46 aka effortless.

Nav equipped cars are going to be just as much of a wiring pain for the avant 3 as it is for the seicane or any of the other ones since that harness has to be run to the back.

So for nav people I don't see the avant 3 being worth the extra money any way you look at it so far (this is said with a grain a salt so to speak since I don't have a dsp car to do from scratch with a Seicane yet to know exactly how that's going to go.)

If plugging the Seicane model I have in with the ibus adapter makes it just work with a dsp nav setup then it flat out is the best choice just from being half price.
I did like the mounting brackets on the ///Avin 3 but no built in CD or DVD seems odd...
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Guys I need some help hooking up the reverse camera to the reverse light. On the camera wire there is red wire and a black wire for the reverse tap. I assume the 12V red wire connects to the white/yellow wire going into the lower tailgate? But what does the black wire connect to? I assume ground, but which wire is the ground wire in the lower tailgate? There is more than 1 brown wire there.
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I think if he had of done the nav to mid coding after the initial hook up it would of "just worked". If we can get him back to factory and working right and get back to the initial 20 seconds then quits and then do the coding from nav to mid he will be home free.
At the time the coding was suggested the IBUS/DSP was another option, Seicane had a sure thing fix and I had two youtube videos that were also sure thing fixes. Yes, I avoided coding since there was nothing from Seicane that hinted any coding was necessary and the coding suggestion was presented as it should work, or I think it will work.

I tried going back to the 'original' system--no sound, NAV screen wouldn't show anything.

Since that time the input as to what color wire goes in what slot of the blue connector has changed a couple of times or I interpreted the inputs wrong. When I return from vacation I will post what I understand to be the correct slot/color wire arrangement in the blue connector and get confirmation there is consensus and try to go back to where I started. Frankly I don't expect the system to work but it should be easier to troubleshoot. At this point I see no other choice.

Critical to going back is being sure the wires in the blue connector are in the right slots. And, which slots the 3 black wires in the white connectors should be in. They are all black but they have something similar to shrink connectors of different colors on them. I don't think it matters but I want to eliminate the possibility.

I think part of the problem finding a solution is no one has had my particular audio components and thus has not been able to provide me step by step instructions of how they were successful. Seicane responses seem to be answers to somebody else's question--useless. I will detail the steps I should have taken when this is resolved. That is if I get it working before I smash it on my garage floor and jump on it until i can't get off the ground.

Input has been great and all have been patient, much appreciated.
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Guys I need some help hooking up the reverse camera to the reverse light. On the camera wire there is red wire and a black wire for the reverse tap. I assume the 12V red wire connects to the white/yellow wire going into the lower tailgate? But what does the black wire connect to? I assume ground, but which wire is the ground wire in the lower tailgate? There is more than 1 brown wire there.
All the browns are grounds.
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Guys I need some help hooking up the reverse camera to the reverse light. On the camera wire there is red wire and a black wire for the reverse tap. I assume the 12V red wire connects to the white/yellow wire going into the lower tailgate? But what does the black wire connect to? I assume ground, but which wire is the ground wire in the lower tailgate? There is more than 1 brown wire there.
You are going to have to run a relay setup for the reverse cam trigger wire. The lights are PWM signals (for some reason) so they aren't enough to power the backup camera when the backup lights are turned on. It's been discussed before and a search should turn up the info. If after you hook up the camera, you just get a black screen instead of an image, this is your problem. I'm not sure if it only affects post LCI trucks as I only have experience with a post LCI.

And yes, all the solid browns in BMW's are ground wires. Any of them will do.
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