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Indiana Jones didn't say it he just did it. I guess that makes him Republican?
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Considering that about as many die from gun violence in chicago every 5 weeks in chicago alone, but other than the weekly report every monday of how many were shot (and sometimes it's 50-70 people) in local papers, it's really never in the news.
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Media bias as a jumping off point and that only 'dirty laundry' will get airtime, the vast majority of cases where a handgun is used for defense will not even be reported. A wanna-be mugger pulls a knife (or a gun), a would-be victim pulls his gun, and the attacker runs away. That's how it usually goes down; the % is very hard to pin down as most of those cases do not get reported. Honestly i was surprised to see the numbers as high as they are but the LOWEST estimates are about 50,000 and a honest reporting likely is in the 1 million range. So; about 1 million times a year in the usa, somebody uses a gun in self defense. There aren't a million gun deaths or even injuries, so that bodes well for the self-defense case. You can find links to plenty of studies on the DGU page of wikipedia
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This isn't something made up this happened last month when prisoners escaped in Georgia. Google it. Guns have been used for self defense for years even in countries that outlaw gun ownership. In the non gun countries people keep shotguns and such for hunting. England for example. There are tons of examples of self defense cases in those countries involving the hunting guns. So having a gun for self defense makes perfect sense. Just make me thankful everyday for the country I live in and the constitution that protects me and my family.
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I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. My point is so many are tossing around statistics that are invalid or from a biased source as if it is documented fact and won't consider anything that is counter to what they want to believe. You have alluded to several changes in gun laws that you would endorse. That must mean to you there is a problem and there are some solutions that could be implemented. That would result in stricter gun laws. As a side bar---For those that say they need guns to protect them from the government: Does anyone believe that if the federal government decided to take all guns away from citizens gun owners could stop it, in a democracy or otherwise?
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Senator David Leyonhjelm warns the US not to adopt Australia's gun control laws - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ictims-senator
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Category: | Herald Sun
'Gun Violence' Never Happens in 'Gun Free' Australia. Except When it Does - The Truth About Guns Quote:
But that's my opinion and others are fully entitled to theirs.
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The Senator's remarks do not represent the current conditions, was first posted in 2015. Since he was addressing the NRA they are certainly biased. His remarks are his opinion not based on the what the majority of the populations believes or wants. He has a long term history of being pro guns. What certainly invalidates his comments is that it makes no reference to what has happened to gun death statistics. That is the point. The article you pulled up is anecdotal. That is one case out of how many? It could be a downside of no guns that needs to be addressed but what is most important to no guns law is if the result has reduced the number of gun related deaths. Think about this---we haven't included innocent people wounded in mass killings. Just take Vegas alone and include the innocent people wounded. The reach of the mass killings and overall gun problem is many times more than those killed. If you want to defend your position you need to have a study that includes 2016 figures, an unbiased, historically a longterm reputable source, a sample size that results in a very low error potential and post it so we can read it for ourselves rather than accept your interpretation. It's not even acceptable to pull numbers from an article that references a study without pulling up the study and look at the sampling, error potential and interpret the information on your own. I'm not saying your position on gun control is wrong. I am saying the information you are using does not validate your position. That takes it back to only your opinion rather than one based on applicable facts.
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