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Old 11-26-2019, 07:24 PM
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E53 5speed To 6speed Swap.

My car is a killer in rpm on the highways at 80mph and 4grand rpm and was thinking to swap the 5 speed I have to a 2004 x4 6 speed trans and would like to know if it’s a direct swap for this or I have to swap out the transfer case and drivershaft.

Tired looking at the realoem parts list but the 2004 X5 6 speed is not listed just for my 2002 X5 show the parts listing but at the diagram looks the same for both years.

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Lots more to swap that just the mechanical parts (transmission, transfer case etc.) - there's all the transmission control electronics too, along with the transfer case controller etc. Massive task - including a huge amount of re-programming.

While such a swap might be possible, it might be easier to just sell it and find a 6-speed car....
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From fading memory, someone/someones have done it...try Search.

Back at the High RPM Ranch, would the cost of the 6 spd trans and accompanying costs of the possible swap really be cost effective, other than for lowering highway rpm a ~ thou and maybe your piece of mind?

I get the highway high rpm: I have had an '01 E53 5 Speed since new, and quite familiar with the high rpm at highway speeds...

Not sure the 'cost'/aggravation/process is worth the effort, but everyone has their own bag.

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Another option to lower the RPMs at highway speed is to put the differentials from the m62 e53. Some members here have done this and I think it lowers the rpms at 70mph by 500 or so. That would be much easier to do and to locate the parts. Cheaper as well.
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Lots more to swap that just the mechanical parts (transmission, transfer case etc.) - there's all the transmission control electronics too, along with the transfer case controller etc. Massive task - including a huge amount of re-programming.

While such a swap might be possible, it might be easier to just sell it and find a 6-speed car....
There’s no electronica controls on manual that’s just automatic....:
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From fading memory, someone/someones have done it...try Search.

Back at the High RPM Ranch, would the cost of the 6 spd trans and accompanying costs of the possible swap really be cost effective, other than for lowering highway rpm a ~ thou and maybe your piece of mind?

I get the highway high rpm: I have had an '01 E53 5 Speed since new, and quite familiar with the high rpm at highway speeds...

Not sure the 'cost'/aggravation/process is worth the effort, but everyone has their own bag.

GL on your search and project...
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Another option to lower the RPMs at highway speed is to put the differentials from the m62 e53. Some members here have done this and I think it lowers the rpms at 70mph by 500 or so. That would be much easier to do and to locate the parts. Cheaper as well.

I was thinking of this as well and thanks for the info!
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There’s no electronica controls on manual that’s just automatic....:
True - but you never stated it was a manual trans and I just assumed it was an auto.

So yeah, much easier. But the transfer case issue is the same... unless you can get the NV125/LWX500 transfer case to fit the 6-speed trans, you are looking at a full xDrive retro-fit.
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E53 5speed To 6speed Swap.



I’ve actually grown quite fond of this formula!

Especially with a 7000 rpm redline.
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There’s no electronica controls on manual that’s just automatic....:
None on the transmission, but the LCI ('04+ 6 speed) transfer case is electronically controled (x-drive). Your pre-LCI doesn't even have the wiring harness for this. I looked into this swap and it would be an inordinate amount of work to do. I'm in the process of doing a differential swap as I write this. Going to the 3.64 differentials will drop your RPM's by 11%.
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