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Old 11-26-2019, 03:27 PM
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04 4.4, just replaced engine, no start!

Hello all, I have just finished replacing the engine in my 04 with the 4.4. This has been a low priority project and am taking my time. The battery has been disconnected since last spring. Today was the start day. Have all wiring connected and correct. Battery fully charged. All lights come on the dash and in cluster. Have scanned it with my foxwell and cleared all codes. Did have a EWS low voltage code, but that is gone. Have physically and electrically tested all fuses, front and rear. I have 12 volts at the starter. But, the thing will not crank over! I used the spare key and it does the same thing. Both keys will lock/unlock the car. I have searched everywhere on how to test the actual operation of the starter, and nothing. Close to throwing in the towel on this project. But don't want to and hate to give up. Any help would be greatly appreciated on where to look or how to test the starter.
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Old 11-26-2019, 09:32 PM
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Could be a bad ignition switch. If you have 12 volt at the starter you can buy a remote starter and connect one end to the 12 volts terminal at the starter and the other end to the starter solenoid wire (it's the thin wire on the starter). Make sure the trans is in park and make sure the hand brake is on. Place the key in the ignition and turn it to the run position (not start position). Click the remote starter and the engine should crank.

Here's a video on how to connect a remote starter to the engine. They used the 12 volts from the battery but if you have 12w volts at the starter you can use that terminal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MizlteB1RQY
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The X5 is very finicky when it comes to battery voltage/amperage. I had a situation where it appeared the battery had full voltage. . .but didn't have the amperage to start the car and the battery had sat for a long time. The battery circuit in the X5 is fairly simple and I am certain you will find the culprit.
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Thanks guys. I have jumped the solenoid and it does crank the motor. So, starter is good. Trying to determine now whether the starter relay is in the ECM box or whether it is part of the IVM module. Or the EWS......Grrrrr. Still trying to figure it out and don't want to just "throw" parts at this. Want to do the correct diagnoses.
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Since you got the engine to crank by jumping the starter solenoid (thin wire), I would start from there. The starter solenoid is not getting a signal from the DME so you will need to get a circuit diagram and trace back from there.

If you had the ignition key in the run position you should have been able to start the engine, provided that nothing else is wrong.

On my Audi Avant, the wire for the starter solenoid broke a couple of inches back from the the terminal. I splice in a new piece of wire with the correct terminal connector and got my Audi Avant fix.
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MISC Codes

SO here are codes I pulled. Did some research online and nothing specific. Can anyone help on deciphering? Some are saying the IVM could be a culprit here as well. But no way to definitely diagnose..Any help is really appreciated.
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Other than the motor, did you swap any other parts?
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Other than the motor, did you swap any other parts?
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Do you have the round 20 pins connector in the engine bay or just the OBD II connector under the dash?
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Just the OBD II, car is an 04 so no underhood round. I have INPA and all of that, but have no idea how to use it! Embarrassed to say...Have tried but it is too quirky and I only know MAC, very little about PC's. But think my Foxwell is pretty good.
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