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Old 05-28-2020, 03:35 PM
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Shouldn’t matter regards alignment in regards to rotation. But the “teeth” on the wheel should be directly inline with the end of the sensor. Did you remove the wheel at all? Also have you ensured that the sensor is the same depth/length as the one that you removed? As Too much distance to the wheel would give a reduced signal return.

Did you wipe the codes from the module before attempting a restart? Just depending on fault code the vehicle could start up thinking something is wrong If a legacy code is still stored.

Regards to the misfire codes are all the plugs/coils fitted fully and the coil connectors in place? Sounds Noddy but worth a check, maybe something took a knock?

Theoretically the ZF transmission other than the Park/neutral safety circuit should have no bearing on the engine starting..... unless something hugely mechanical was wrong.... but in those cases I don’t think the engine would even turn over.

Does the sensor pickup the sync from the flywheel? I took out flywheel because there was coolant leak behind it and replaced a gasket there and put it back and tightened it using the proper torque numbers. I made sure the alignment sign on the flywheel matched as well..



I did not clear out the codes yet. Car is out of battery and I was only able to start it (and die) once before the jump starter was also dead. I will charge it and go back to try to start again soon..


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As long as the alignment is right there shouldn’t be an issue in regards to sensor/wheel alignment. Not sure if your engine can you fit the wheel any other location? Or is it keyed to only go on in one orientation?

Not sure but if you have assess to a more professional scanner you may be able to watch the live data from each sensor? Just to ensure it’s producing a clean waveform?

If you said your batter was low/dead that could be the issue regards the weird faults as these cars are very weird when the battery is even a little low. Mine likes to de sync the DME and throw up a suspension warning for example.

I’d fully charge the battery. Wipe the codes and give a start another go. The fact it ran and then stopped is a good sign as if the sensor was not receiving a signal for example it wouldn’t start at all (potentially).

With the codes still in the memory the car is assuming that you haven’t changed anything and may be trying to go into some kind of engine protection. Also wiping the codes gives you a clean slate as it were. So you will know any new codes that are provided will be current faults
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Also seems you can smell fuel I’d give a good visual inspection of the fuel lines under the vehicle. As taking something like the transmission out the risk of bashing a fuel line is a possibility. You may have a pinhole leak somewhere or a crushed pipe?

Worth checking everything as like suggested before fuel starvation could also be the cause of the cutting out. As if you have a restriction the engine might just be using all the fuel in the line before it cant get anymore out.
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A test for that..... although is a COSHH nightmare and will make a mess...would be to crack the fuel rail at the injectors with a bucket or something under it and turn the key to just before start. That should prime the fuel pump and put pressure to the rail. If you get a strong steady stream then that confirms you are getting fuel to one bank ( so perform on both sides).

Obviously that test is not confined or advised as unless your carful fuel could go everywhere! But I used to do it on my range rover 4.6 all the time as that had a pinhole leak in a fuel line so was sucking in air when it was parked then would cough and splutter for a minute or so until I found the problem!

If the fuel dribbles out but you can hear the pump whirring away then you potentially have a restriction in the line somewhere. Or (like my range rover) “farts” and you get fuel then air then fuel you may have a leak in the system somewhere.
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As long as the alignment is right there shouldn’t be an issue in regards to sensor/wheel alignment. Not sure if your engine can you fit the wheel any other location? Or is it keyed to only go on in one orientation?

That makes me worry big time. There is a different size of bolt hole to show how the flywheel needs to be aligned and I do not remember following that feature. What I saw was the white paint that the hole on the flywheel and the installation point on the engine which I matched.

I guess I need to look at the timing pinhole on the flywheel and make sure it matches the sign on the crank.

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That makes me worry big time. There is a different size of bolt hole to show how the flywheel needs to be aligned and I do not remember following that feature. What I saw was the white paint that the hole on the flywheel and the installation point on the engine which I matched.

I guess I need to look at the timing pinhole on the flywheel and make sure it matches the sign on the crank.

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The different size bolt hole was for the DOWEL. If you didn't follow that procedure the flywheel is on wrong.
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The different size bolt hole was for the DOWEL. If you didn't follow that procedure the flywheel is on wrong.
I do not even remember seeing a dowel (or a larger hole on the flywheel). I saw someone put a white sign on one of the bolts and I matched that (I thought).

I admit that it is a stupid rookie mistake by me..

Tired and frustrated right now. Got the car towed to the street. I may go back to it once I feel better..

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As 80stech mentioned in one of the first posts- if you have problems after working on a vehicle always check your work. I don't start looking elsewhere until I am sure all is as it should be, including wires, hoses, metal lines etc. near the work I hove done. I take many pictures of the disassembly. I don't expect my memory or a service manual to be sufficient. Even if I have done the same repair in the past I follow the same procedure. I bag and label the fasteners or put them with the part I have removed, take pictures etc. I always write down the codes and make sure they are cleared before I start working. In short organize the disassembly so you know the order of install and what fasteners go where. Once you have a process for DIY, never vary regardless of the complexity of the repair.

There are several other things I do but you get the idea. You may already have your own organizational process. In case you don't this is an idea of what works for me.
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I didn't realize the V8 crank trigger was on the flywheel, I think the 6cyl triggers from the crank itself, but yes that can happen even to a seasoned mechanic so don't feel too bad about it.
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I didn't realize the V8 crank trigger was on the flywheel, I think the 6cyl triggers from the crank itself, but yes that can happen even to a seasoned mechanic so don't feel too bad about it.

Just angry at myself. I planned and wrote down every part of the transmission work, took photos etc. and this one was supposed to be a quick side repair. I think the flywheel has an empty space of three or so teeth long which I believe signals the sensor for timing.



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