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Old 11-13-2020, 01:26 PM
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rusted inverse torx on ball joint



Here was the basically round nut I removed using this method. I also do have a set of sockets designed like screw extractors but female. I have better luck with the bostich spline sockets. Especially when I can cross over between sae and metric to get half sizes.

You can see in the pic the spline groove cut into the nut. I got no grief removing once pounded on.

The slightly bigger torx concept described above is the inside version of what I'm describing here. Impact, heat, hammer on the head first and liquid wrench. More planning than action will improve your odds.

If the thing strips than you use an angle grinder and cut a nice big groove for a giant flat bit and impact wrench.
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I would use one of those impact driver that you strike with a hammer. The impact of the hammer strike may loosen the bolt.
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I would use one of those impact driver that you strike with a hammer. The impact of the hammer strike may loosen the bolt.
Ahhh yes, the ol' impact screwdriver. I found out about those recently at my buddy's bike shop. Didn't now such an animal existed.
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Duh-OH!

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I would use one of those impact driver that you strike with a hammer. The impact of the hammer strike may loosen the bolt.
Fuuuu... DERP!

I have one of those and used to use it all the time - just totally fergot...



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Ahhh yes, the ol' impact screwdriver. I found out about those recently at my buddy's bike shop. Didn't now such an animal existed.
Literally my favorite tool in the garage. Hard to over-toque most things with them too as an added bonus. Still capable of too many "uggaduggas" if you are ham-fisted. My weapon of choice is the 20v Dewalt. Have 2 of them. One brushless and one regular.
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Literally my favorite tool in the garage. Hard to over-toque most things with them too as an added bonus. Still capable of too many "uggaduggas" if you are ham-fisted. My weapon of choice is the 20v Dewalt. Have 2 of them. One brushless and one regular.
Looks like I'll have to pick one of these screwdriver thingamajigs as I don't see any reason why I shouldn't own one.

I just picked up a few of those Milwaukee Stubby impacts and a couple of their other 12v tools to help with my repetitive bitch ass wrists/hands. Nothing like years of not taking care of your injuries to ensure you're working with arthritic clenched fists when you get older <-- IDIOT!!

Love the help the power tools give with the sudden jerk and hammering to loosen seized fasteners.
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I would use one of those impact driver that you strike with a hammer. The impact of the hammer strike may loosen the bolt.


That's the exact kind I'm thinking if you have to revert to the cut slot.


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Don't be jealous

Well I spent time pricing out used knuckles in case I had to deal with worst case.

Weather turned very nice (15C in the Canadian tropics out west here) so I decided to search out all the tools I thought I might need.

The essential kit is in the picture; the hammer punch extractor, impact driver with adapters, propane torch, T50 torx, WD40 and never seize (for assembly)

I had soaked the area with WD40 over last couple of days, then used torch until I got smoke on all sides of joint. Using punch tool, I hammered clock-wise a couple of times first, then switched to CC. After a few whacks and more heat, I used the impact driver, very carefully making sure well seated. After cracking at it about 30 secs, it suddenly let loose.

Then I applied more heat and a couple of chisels to pry out balljoint. Took my time and worked around the flange to spread a bit at a time. Had BJ out in about 10 minutesThere was much rejoicing...

Just for shtz and gigs, I am making a DIY solid bushing on the tension arm. It just seems way to pliable.
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^Nice work! Took me at least 2 hours per side to get that ball joint out of the knuckle. Maybe longer... was back in 2016 and I'm still trying to forget it.
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PTSD therapy - seek professional help

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^Nice work! Took me at least 2 hours per side to get that ball joint out of the knuckle. Maybe longer... was back in 2016 and I'm still trying to forget it.

I have had my share of mental and emotional breakdown and pain when it comes to seized & corroded parts.

Therapists such as Johnny Walker or Jim Beam can help a lot

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