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Old 03-11-2021, 02:46 PM
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From the EU site I hit “buy now” and it redirects me to a page that says it’s no longer available. My other problem is the fact that since my unit has never worked since I bought my x, I don’t know if anything audio related works. I’d hate to buy a $700 Dynavin unit only to find that the DSP amp or godforbid something else is inoperable. For now, the only unit I can find that is DSP compatible out of the box without that i bus interface is the Dynavin. This is a decision/gamble that I’ll have to figure out but I really do appreciate everyone’s input on the matter. It’s $700 for a Dynavin or a bit more for an entire soundsystem overhaul. The gamble is the $700 Dynavin then a soundsystem overhaul after I find something not repairable.
I had Dynavin N6 before the Avin4. It's not worth it at all for the price. It runs a proprietary OS and thus you cannot not add any apps to it (nor is any available from Dynavin other than what it shipped with) as you would on an Android device. With Avin4 or any other Android head unit for that matter, you can install apps right from googleplay. Can't beat that. Also, it doesn't quite look OEM. With Avin4, you'd be hard-pressed to tell if it's an aftermarket unit. I'd bought Dynavin N6 for $800 and managed to sell it for $250 () last year after getting fed up with its limitations.
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Curious about this e53-specific wide screen version from Avin: 10.25" Multimedia Navigation System for BMW X5 E53

That's a lot of screen compared to the Avin4. And still works with DSP.

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Curious about this e53-specific wide screen version from Avin: 10.25" Multimedia Navigation System for BMW X5 E53

That's a lot of screen compared to the Avin4. And still works with DSP.

I liked it and it's even cheaper than Avin4 but passed it over because I really wanted to keep OEM looks. I thought the unit would look too fancy and out of place in the dash of an E53 X5, but that's just my opinion.
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I wish Avin hadn't dropped the slot for a CD or DVD, to me that is a deal breaker.

I am reading that Secaine currently makes the best android replacement unit?

I really don't understand why one of the manufacturers can't make a kit which can interface with the dash connectors in a car that already has NAV. The cables that are there already go back to the radio tuner and other connectors in the boot, why not use the cables that are there and fashion some sort of interconnecting interface?
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I wish Avin hadn't dropped the slot for a CD or DVD, to me that is a deal breaker.

I am reading that Secaine currently makes the best android replacement unit?

I really don't understand why one of the manufacturers can't make a kit which can interface with the dash connectors in a car that already has NAV. The cables that are there already go back to the radio tuner and other connectors in the boot, why not use the cables that are there and fashion some sort of interconnecting interface?
Granted I've only done limited study on this but I believe because the wires going back to the main unit in the trunk are control wires only. The OEM nav unit is just some knobs and buttons. The brain is in the back. So at least 1 additional canbus wire is required (possibly others as well). It may be that there are not enough existing wires or that they don't go to the correct locations. Also I did exhaustive research on all of the units before I bought mine, and even though the AVIN is quite a bit more expensive I chose it because of the quality, the almost exact OEM look, the availability of the DSP and mostly the product support which is better than many of the larger brands and retail houses. <24 hour response times to all questions.

As for the wide screen (personal preference here): I think that removing buttons and knobs is extremely unsafe, where one can obtain muscle memory to utilize physical buttons, using a touchscreen requires taking your eyes off the road. So beyond the not so OEM look of the widescreen, I'll keep my buttons thanks.
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The AVIN unit looks great but the DSP add on is out of stock. I’ve decided I’m just going to get a head unit that looks factory and build the sound system from scratch. It’s going to be more expensive but not as expensive as it would be if I try to use the DSP and find out it needs to be repaired. Oh well...
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Wow that's a new one, Ive seen the ibus adapter stock have issues but never the DSP. . .

My X actually has the entire system gutted, done by a previous owner. All standalone crossovers, speakers, and amps. It's a much fuller sound than my e39 (non-DSP) and it actually sounds better then my wife's F15 with the hi-fi so there is something to be said for going all aftermarket. All that said my AVIN does have the DSP because per AVIN it adds a higher level of processing to the outputs for better quality. I don't have anything to compare it to so I don't know how much of a difference it makes. It was $15 more so I went ahead and got it.

Edit: I just looked at the AVIN website, their prices have gone up on a lot of the add-ons. Also it is the Ibus adapter that's out of stock not the DSP chip. The ibus adapter is required if you want the MID to work with your gauge cluster and I believe some of the steering wheel functions are tied to it as well.
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Shit. Which gauge cluster settings won’t work without the ibus? Also, are there not other adapters on the market which allow the use of the steering wheel controls?
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Shit. Which gauge cluster settings won’t work without the ibus? Also, are there not other adapters on the market which allow the use of the steering wheel controls?
Steering wheel controls are handled by the canbus. All Android units come with that box afaik.

Without the ibus you'll lose ability to reset trip meters, time, etc.
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