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Old 04-14-2022, 11:41 AM
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4.6i Badging

A vanity project for sure, but I've picked up left and right 4.6is badging and want to replace the "4" on my car to make it read "4.6i". From experience, I know this is the type of task that could turn out poorly for me and my ADD!

Lots of advice on replacing rondels, but I've found limited info on removing the model badging and re-adhering the new one. I've read that a heat gun will work, or dental floss, but would love any additional info guys may have so my results don't look child-like. The seller included some double-sided tapes of varying thickness, and a small tube of what looks like super glue. Not sure if there is a tried-and-true method I could use.

Since the numbers are all separate (not connected into one badge), maybe I can just replace the second "4" in the 4.4 without screwing up the numbers/letters.

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Old 04-14-2022, 12:20 PM
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Remove using dental floss and then clean up the residue with weak solvent from the body shop for stains.

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Before removal, use masking tape to mark the square of the digit you're removing, it'll make installing the "6" square much easier. Floss is great, just make sure you don't get the soft foam type.
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Old 04-15-2022, 12:35 PM
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You do realize that it won't impress those that don't know BMWs. The badge won't have any meaning to them. Those that do know BMWs will know it is not a 4.6. To each their own.

There is double sided tape out there that will work just fine. Works for things that are much heavier. Goo Gone works great for removing residue and, as mentioned dental floss is the easiest and safest way to remove the 4.4.
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Old 04-15-2022, 02:07 PM
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You do realize that it won't impress those that don't know BMWs. The badge won't have any meaning to them. Those that do know BMWs will know it is not a 4.6. To each their own.

There is double sided tape out there that will work just fine. Works for things that are much heavier. Goo Gone works great for removing residue and, as mentioned dental floss is the easiest and safest way to remove the 4.4.
Thanks for all the tipper gents. Got one side on yesterday, then ran out of time.

BCredliner, maybe you didn’t see the part of my post that started with “…vanity project”. That said, one guy will know what it is, a 2002 4.4i with a brand new 4.6 motor that I installed myself - Me. I would have just stayed home if my goal was to impress people, especially the guys on this board, who on the whole are way more knowledgeable than me on the X5, and are very generous with their knowledge. Perhaps however, you miss the point of these types of projects.

My 4.6i goes like hell, sounds great, it’s the only one that I know of and I enjoy driving it much more now than I did the previous 20 years we’ve owned the car.
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Thanks for all the tipper gents. Got one side on yesterday, then ran out of time.



BCredliner, maybe you didn’t see the part of my post that started with “…vanity project”. That said, one guy will know what it is, a 2002 4.4i with a brand new 4.6 motor that I installed myself - Me. I would have just stayed home if my goal was to impress people, especially the guys on this board, who on the whole are way more knowledgeable than me on the X5, and are very generous with their knowledge. Perhaps however, you miss the point of these types of projects.



My 4.6i goes like hell, sounds great, it’s the only one that I know of and I enjoy driving it much more now than I did the previous 20 years we’ve owned the car.


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Old 04-15-2022, 03:26 PM
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how do you impress these guys?

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... I would have just stayed home if my goal was to impress people, especially the guys on this board, who on the whole are way more knowledgeable than me on the X5....
I've been on numerous forums, where there are always those wanting to "impress" the other members, especially for entry-level afficionados...those that just got their first "hot" car, or discovered "fart can" mufflers. This forum (especially the E53, and other older X5 model forum subdivisions) seems to be made up of mostly people
  • 1) appreciating the X5 and all its' qualities,
  • 2) trying to preserve or restore a classic, or
  • 3) (as in my case) both the two above, and working on a last auto project.

I don't see many "car life" beginners here, nor those seeking admiration from others; the younger guys are proud of what they've found in the X5 (whether it's new or a survivor), the mid-aged guys seem to try and improve what they have (my middle-aged obsession with drag racing my Chevelle, as an example), and many older guys adding to their collection of fine cars (or the final project among many lesser marques).

Having been thru the three levels of "car life", I recognize the merits of each stage, as seen when passing thru it, so when someone may boast of the X5 he's found, kept running, bought, restored, collected, or any combination of ... I totally understand. As long as they don't slap a "fart can" muffler and a "Type R" badge on their X5, I'm glad to read about their accomplishments.
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Thanks for all the tipper gents. Got one side on yesterday, then ran out of time.

BCredliner, maybe you didn’t see the part of my post that started with “…vanity project”. That said, one guy will know what it is, a 2002 4.4i with a brand new 4.6 motor that I installed myself - Me. I would have just stayed home if my goal was to impress people, especially the guys on this board, who on the whole are way more knowledgeable than me on the X5, and are very generous with their knowledge. Perhaps however, you miss the point of these types of projects.

My 4.6i goes like hell, sounds great, it’s the only one that I know of and I enjoy driving it much more now than I did the previous 20 years we’ve owned the car.
There was no criticism intended and I have been admiring your
initiative and following your progress. Sorry if you are offended.

4.6 is a great engine, especially the bottom end. Dinan still offers engine and transmission software that you might be interested in. https://www.dinancars.com/platform/b...ubmodel/4-6is/.
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Old 04-16-2022, 09:58 AM
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There was no criticism intended and I have been admiring your
initiative and following your progress. Sorry if you are offended.

4.6 is a great engine, especially the bottom end. Dinan still offers engine and transmission software that you might be interested in. https://www.dinancars.com/platform/b...ubmodel/4-6is/.
I don’t know about initiative, more like self preservation. My kids are out of the house and I need to stay busy I’ve learned.

No worries, I jumped to conclusions. I apologize as well.

I’m really surprised that Dinan offers anything for the car/motor any longer. Those brakes look amazing. I’ve got a mild tune on top of the base 4.6 ones and zeros squirted into my DME by one of the “usual suspect” tuners and it seems to be working well. He was the only one who was willing to delete my SAP system, based on the fact that it hadn’t worked for a while, and Louisiana doesn’t emissions test. He did miss deleting the small electric valve that operates the air valve, so I’ve got it plugged back in for now. Rather than send my,DME off for a week again I have the resistor which should fool it and just need to test it, then solder it in.

The only possible DME/tune issue I seem to be having is sometimes when I start the car again after driving it for a while and shutting it down for some amount of time (grocery store run, etc), it cranks for a bit longer than I’m used to with the M62 family. Nothing cosmic, but a few more cranks, then almost a “soft start” rather than the normal explosion I was used to with my 4.4. A bit lean on the start perhaps under specific circumstances.

I agree that the lower end is really nice compared to the 4.4, but also the motor just explodes at around 4K and up. Maybe this is the tune coupled with the long runner intake I put on. The intake noise comes on like a jet engine above 4K too.

I haven’t wrung it out to the redline yet, but I expect it will run out of schlitz at around 6k like the rest of the M62 family? Crappy headers are the culprit I read.
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Old 04-16-2022, 02:21 PM
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Some of the Dinan mods have been discontinued. At that time there were suspension and exhaust mods as well. With the exhaust, cold air box, larger throttle body, tune, larger MAF and transmission software the HP went from 340 to 369 HP at 5700rpms. The torque improved from 364 to 382 at 4500rpms. The engine software increased redline to 6500rpms. The trans software, that is a must have, great value, IMO, changes shift points and makes them faster and firmer and adds a complete manual mode-it won't shift until you shift it. I considered headers but I thought the price was crazy. I installed electric cutouts instead.

The 4.4 stock was 282hp at 5500rpm and torque was 335 at 3500rpms, compared to the stock 4.6 at 340hp at 5700rpms and torque at 355 at 5700rpms, a big fun difference.

By bottom end I meant the bottom end of the engine which I think is almost bulletproof. The 4.6 should have already had the longer runner intake from the factory, the 4.4 didn't. With the Dinan mods the engine pulls all the way to 6500 redline.
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