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Check with your service advisor....Its now scheduled to be replaced at 100k miles. Not lifetime anymore.
I checked with 2 BMW service advisors and 2 indie shops and they all said the same thing - lifetime fluid.
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:23 AM
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Using BMW oil will cost 2x more.

1L = 26$
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Old 08-16-2009, 03:41 PM
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here is what says GM

General Motors DEXRONŽ-VI Global Service-Fill Specification

During early 2005 General Motors released a newly developed automatic transmission fluid (ATF) for the factory fill of all GM Powertrain stepped gear automatic transmissions. The new fluid provides significantly improved performance in terms of friction durability, viscosity stability, aeration and foam control and oxidation resistance. In addition, the fluid has the potential to enable improved fuel economy and extended drain intervals. Since the performance of the new fluid far exceeded that of the DEXRONŽ-III service-fill fluids available at the time it became necessary to upgrade the DEXRONŽ service-fill specification in order to ensure that similar fluids were available in the market for service situations. This latest upgrade to the service- fill specification is designated DEXRONŽ-VI.
Since General Motors introduced the first ATF service-fill specification in 1949 it has been periodically necessary to upgrade the specification. This upgrading process ensures that available service fill fluids are of an appropriate quality for use in transmissions that have been designed around the factory fill fluid performance. It should be noted that, as with previous upgrades, DEXRONŽ-VI fluids are designed to be backward compatible with earlier transmission hardware. More importantly, earlier type fluids are not forward compatible with transmission hardware that was designed to use DEXRONŽ-VI fluid, i.e. DEXRONŽ-III is not compatible with the most recently designed transmissions, and the use of these earlier type fluids could result in transmission damage. All current calibrations and certification tests are now conducted with DEXRONŽ-VI ATF. DEXRONŽ-III fluids should not be used for these applications where the owners manual recommends the use of DEXRONŽ-VI. GM does not license or support obsolete ATF specifications or the use of fluids that are being marketed against cancelled specifications.
All DEXRONŽ-III licenses expire at the end of 2006 and will not be renewed. Beyond that date GM will only support the use of DEXRONŽ-VI fluids for use in Hydra-Matic transmissions. Fluids sold in the market after that date bearing claims such as “suitable for use in DEXRONŽ-III applications” or similar wording should be avoided. DEXRONŽ-VI licensed fluids are fully backward compatible and can be used in all applications covered by earlier GM ATF specifications.
The use of unlicensed fluids and/or non GM approved aftermarket additives may prove detrimental to transmission performance and void warranty coverage.
There is a published list of GM-approved brands of DEXRONŽ-VI (see page two of this release). This list represents the companies who have conducted the appropriate testing and received GM approval. Company name, license number, and brand name are shown. This list will be updated on a regular basis as more approved products are added.


DEXRONŽ-VI Service Fill Approved Fluids


Company License Number Trade Name

Advanced Lubrication Specialties J-60155 Advantage DEXRONŽ-VI
Allegheny Petroleum J-60152 Altra DEXRONŽ-VI Transmission Fluid
Amalie Oil Company J-60156 Amalie DEXRONŽ-VI Synthetic ATF
Amalie Oil Company J-60156 Wolf's Head DEXRONŽ-VI Synthetic ATF
Amalie Oil Company J-60156 Xcel DEXRONŽ-VI Synthetic ATF
American Agip Co. Inc. J-60306 Agip DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
BP Lubricants USA, Inc. J-60309 Castrol DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Cam2 International J-60158 tbd
CAM2 Oil Products J-60327 CAM2 Synthetic ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
CAM2 Oil Products J-60329 CAM2 Synthetic ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Carquest J-60323 Carquest DEXRONŽ-VI Full Synthetic ATF
Chevron Corporation J-60005 Chevron ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Chevron Corporation J-60005 Havoline ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Chevron Products Company J-60308 Chevron ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Chevron Products Company J-60308 Havoline ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Chevron Products Company J-60336 Chevron ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Chevron Products Company J-60336 Havoline ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Citgo Petroleum Corporation J-60159 tbd
Citgo Petroleum Corporation J-60317 CITGO TRANSGARD DEXRONŽ-VI
ConocoPhillips J-60004 ConocoPhillips Company DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
ConocoPhilips J-60004 Kendall Motor Oil Company DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
ExxonMobil Corporation J-60002 ExxonMobil IMP 6544
ExxonMobil Corporation J-60002 Mobil DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Fuchs Petrolub AG J-60310 TITAN ATF 6000 SL
GMSPO J-60301 GM Vehicle Care DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
GMSPO J-60301 AC/Delco DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Gulf Oil International J-60304 Gulf DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Gulf Oil International J-60311 Gulf DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Hicks Oil Inc. J-60326 Formula 500
Idemitsu Lubricants America Corporation J-60332 tbd
Isuzu Motors America, Inc. J-60333 Isuzu Automatic Transmission Fluid DEXRONŽ-VI
Kuwait Petroleum J-60314 Q8 Auto D VI
Lubricating Specialties Company J-60322 Unitran DEXRONŽ-VI
Mainlube Superior Maintenance Lubricants J-60334 Mainlube 161
Morris Lubricants J-60324 Morris Liquimatic DS J-60324
Northland Products J-60316 Northland DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
PDVSA Deltaven S.A. J-60315 TRANSFLUIDO SINTEICO DVI
Penrite Oil Company Pty Limited J-60302 Penrite ATF DX-VI
Penrite Oil Company Pty Limited J-60312 Penrite ATF DX-VI
Petro-Canada Lubricants J-60001 Petro-Canada DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Pinnacle Oil, Inc. J-60321 National DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Pinnacle Oil, Inc. J-60321 Marathon DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Pinnacle Resources, Inc. J-60320 Multipurpose DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Raloy Lubricantes J-60335 tbd
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH J-60331 RAVENOL DEXRONŽ-VI
Schaeffer Manufacturing Company J-60325 Schaeffer DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Shell Lubricants J-60307 A/C Delco DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Shell Lubricants J-60307 Quaker State ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Shell Lubricants J-60307 Pennzoil DEXRONŽ-VI
Shell Lubricants J-60154 A/C Delco DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
Shell Lubricants J-60154 Quaker State ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Shell Lubricants J-60154 Pennzoil DEXRONŽ-VI
Sinopec Oil J-60006 XunDong ATF VI
SK Corporation J-60003 ZIC DEXRONŽ-VI
Smitty's Supply J-60153 Super S
Smitty's Supply J-60153 Sure Guard
S Oil J-60007 tbd
Superior Lubricants J-60328 Tuxton DEXRONŽ-VI ATF
SYNECO SpA J-60338 tbd
Tianjin Idemitsu Lube Co. Ltd. J-60337 tbd
Total Lubrifiants J-60330 tbd
Universal Lubricants J-60157 Universal DEXRONŽ-VI
Valvoline J-60151 Valvoline ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Valvoline J-60319 Valvoline ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Valvoline (Australia) Pty Limited J-60313 Valvoline ATF DEXRONŽ-VI
Warren Oil Company J-60318 COASTAL DEXRONŽ-VI
Warren Oil Company J-60318 WARREN DEXRONŽ-VI
Warren Oil Company J-60318 LUBRIGUARD DEXRONŽ-VI
Warren Oil Company J-60318 SERVICE PRO DEXRONŽ-VI
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:44 PM
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What does the label on your transmission say to use?
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The label by itself nothing, just code on green sticker. Translated this sticker means ETL7450 E what mean Dexron III H.

But as GM recommand to use Dexron VI, finally i bought it. Even if here very difficult to find some.
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:28 AM
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I have used Valvoline Dexron VI in my transmission. Over 3000 miles now and no issues either with easy driving or hammering it. I have a writeup somewhere on here on doing it, just not with pictures. I will try to find it and edit my post.

Here is the procedure:
I ordered the kit from ECS Tuning. It was an original BMW kit. It was about $50 more than the Elring Klinger one but there was a rumor floating around that the design wasn't quite the same as in it didn't have the pickup on the bottom of the filter. Based on the pictures on ECS Tuning's site of the Erling Klinger one, it would appear that it looks just like the OEM one. I've always been weary of transmission problems so I just bit the bullet and got the OE one to alleviate my paranoia.

The OE one, as you would expect, fit great. It also came with new pan bolts and the original metal gasket with the rubber sealing edge.

The fluid I used was Valvoline DEX VI from Napa. Dealer says the Texaco stuff was superceded by this. I'd call up 2 different dealers and confirm using your VIN.

It's also on this board somewhere but basically what you do is:

1. Warm up the fluid a bit by taking the car on a quick drive, maybe 10 minutes round-trip.

2. Open the fill bolt first and leave it in, loosely.

3. Open the drain bolt and let it all drain out. [Marvel in the fact that the fluid you're watching pour out was once bright red.]

4. Once it's all drained, re-tighten the drain bolt and start pumping new fluid in. It should take about 4 quarts, roughly, until the fluid starts backing/spilling out the fill hole. Also, unless you're working with your car on a lift, the minimal clearance ramps or jack stands get you will warrant a proper hand pump that secures to the top of the bottle of fluid. You might not even need to raise the car, I didn't - not for this part.

5. Close up the fill bolt and return the car to the ground. Take it out for another spin but this time, take it easy on the tranny but take a little longer, maybe aboutt 15-20 mins roundtrip.

6. Return and drain all the fluid out again. It will probably still be almost as dark as it was the 1st time. What you're doing is diluting the old fluid left in the trans cooler lines and torque converter.

7. Undo the pan bolts. On my '06, I had to undo a part of the exhaust hanger/support to get to 1 bolt. Just loosen it and your ratchet extension should slip between.

8. Remove the pan, gasket and old filter. Remove the filter by pulling gently downwards. Don't try to flex it in any direction other than down or it may break. When you pull the filter out, there should be 2 separate ribbed o-rings on the neck of the filter. If there's only 1, the other is stuck in the opening of the transmission itself. I used a tiny flat bladed screw driver, pressed it into the inside of the o-ring, applied pressure and pulled down. Try not to score or scratch the transmission housing.

9. Clean out the pan with some lint free shop towels [the blue ones]. Get all the gunk off of the magnet [you can pull it off] and avoid dropping it anywhere else but the pan.

10. Lube up the o-rings and neck on the new filter with the new ATF and insert into the transmission body. Light to moderate force may be required to push it up. Push directly under the neck of the filter on the underside facing the ground.

11. Apply some ATF with your finger around the rim of the newly-cleaned pan lightly and seat the gasket.

12. Secure the pan to the transmission. [I recall that being alot harder that this sounds when I did it without a helping hand]. This is the fun part. Keep telling yourself that. Using the new bolts, secure two on opposite ends to free up your hand. Then go around in a linear fashion and lightly tighten the bolts working your way around the pan.

13. Torque the bolts down to spec. I forget what the spec is at this time [sorry]. But it is important that they all be torqued equally.

14. Start pumping new fluid in. Again, it should take about 4 quarts.

15. Close up the fill bolt and start the truck up. Run it through the gears slowly, pausing in between each. I even kicked it over to sport mode and went through it manually but I couldn't get higher than 3rd since I wasn't moving.

16. Shut it off. Get back under, open the fill bolt and top up with an additional 2.5 quarts, roughly.

Close it up, clean up and go for a drive!

Check the level again in about a week to make sure it's at the proper level. If fluid spills out or is just under the treaded portion of the fill hole, you're good. Traditionally, it should be checked with the transmission lukewarm so be careful not to get burned by the exhaust or anything.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:48 AM
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My dealer recommand BMW oil of course but also ask 260$ for it.

Finally i bought myself the AC DELCO Dexron VI, 10 liters for 130$.

Personnally i tnik that lifetime garanty for a fluide is not a serious recommandation. Of course for BMW better to sell new transmission if the old one fall down but the budget for this is unreasnnable.
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We have a large selection of transmission fluid available from a variety of different manufactures. While most manufactures consider it to be a lifetime fill, many have found that replacing the fluid / filter is good maintenance for the transmission.

BMW E53 X5 N62 4.4L > Maintenance > Transmission > Fluid - ECS Tuning Inc
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:26 PM
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Yes, since i changed my transmission fluid the transfer between each speed is much much smoother.
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