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Thanks for your input. Good luck with you as well!
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did you bring up any of these symptoms when you were under warranty?
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the valves were replaced after my warranty expired. but i need to go back through my service records and see if I had ever brought it up during my first 50K.
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The recall outlines what a potential failure could be, and how to prevent the failure by installing or repairing the component, if the failure has already occured, the component is replaced with an updated part, or repair kit is added to the part. The SIBs outline what has failed. by symptom, or fault codes, or installation of incorrect accessories, and if the repair is covered under the factory, cpo or esc warranties. Or if the situation is Customer Pay. SIBs also contain information regarding production changes, percieved operation of functions, training, videos, brochures, service requirements, and special tool releases. |
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SIB's are nice, but sometimes (like in my case), the techs may use the SIB wording to the T - they will not investigate anything outside of the written dates, codes, etc... and not just look at the symptoms and diagnosis. oh well. all I know is that I will not pay multiple deductables for mis-replaced parts on the same problem. i'll only do it once.
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You obviously work or have worked for a dealership. I have not. Thats why I come here to ask questions and learn from others. Thanks for outlining the difference between a SIB and recall.
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Hey, wow, I totally know this issue sucks.
This is something BMW should fix for every owner as it truely is a defect. As Mike has said, my main complaint was the car idle rough in the AM (or whenever it was a cold start and it was less than 50F outside) and stalling. I was very fortunate to have a friend at the dealer who was able to get the service manager to open a case with BMW NA to fix my issue even though I was not the original owner and the car was about 1 month outside the warranty. However, the VIN and PN's on the levers did match up with the bulletins listed so my car was a prime candidate for the flix. Even tho BMW should fix this for everyone, I feel that if you have a good relationship with your service writer or the salesperson who sold you your car, you can use that route to get BMW NA to open a PUMA case for you. I wouldn't go in there barnstorming the place and demanding a free fix. Its probably best to play nice and see how much they can help you. They do know its a known issue. Also, there is a way to get the car to fail the diagnostic tests. Maybe killcrap may know and share that info. My friend who is a tech told me my car passed the tests 2x even though we all knew it should have failed. Then he was told to perform the test a different way and surely enough it failed and that got the ball rolling. It has to fail the diagnostic for it to qualify for the lever fix.
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thanks for your insight ^. My problem is that they will not even run diagnostic on the vehicle for this issue, as the fault codes don't match the SIB. I told them the symptoms match, and they state that my car is outside of the SIB production timeframe.
Quick question - did your car have any wierd idle characteristics when warm/operating temp, such as vibration or RPM variation before the fix, and no idle issues after the lever fix? I want to make sure to add this to the symptoms list and a possible fix would be the levers. The car is still CPO for a while, and I'm not too worried that this will never get fixed. It's more like how long will it take. The car has the errors, the dealership witnessed first hand on the idle issues, and now whatever they do to fix it is fine with me. If the DME replacement works for some magical reason, cool! I'm not into the lever fix because I prefer it (who would want to, as there's lots that can go wrong opening up the top end of the engine), but I see it more like the fastest way for me to not be embarrassed to start the car in the morning. Good luck to all with the issue! |
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If I were you, I would offer to pay for the diagnostic. Its only like $150 and BMW would cover that if they find that it is the indeed the levers that is causing your issue.
I fully experienced all the symptoms of the out of tolerance levers. I had the rolling idle at starting, the drop in rpms as it warms up, the occasional stalling as it dropped from high rpm warmup to normal idle, etc. You name it, I had it. According to my friend, he said my issue was not that bad compared to other cars he's seen. The worst was an 04 545i that almost always stalled. Mine only stalled 2x in the short time I had owned it (at that pt). As of right now, there are no idling issues and the car actually feels STRONGER than it did before. The throttle response is great and the TORQUE, yeah, that kicks ass! The 4.8is honestly feels faster on take off vs. my M5. Sometimes I will drive my wife's car for kicks and it feels so STRONG compared to my M5. But then again, I'm sure it has no chance after the M5 gets into its 5-8k powerband in the 500hp M Mode.
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^ if i was out of warranty, I would. However, the car is covered. I guess they'll keep playing around until it's fixed.
Thanks for the symptoms. If I can find out the "special" diagnostic, that would be great for myself and the others still having this problem. |
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