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Old 02-02-2024, 12:11 AM
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Anyone know if there's any issue putting E70 style 214s on my 2003 E53 3.0? ...
According to this thread - no issue, they fit: -

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Old 02-02-2024, 10:22 AM
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According to this thread - no issue, they fit: -

https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...squared-2.html

OK, so I had to read through that twice but he's saying he got two sets of 214s and put the rear wheels (11" wide) on both front and back - so I assume the fronts fit too, and hopefully better than that first picture?

(This is actually the only vehicle I've ever owned that I would choose to put staggered tires on, because it gives me such extremely even tire wear. I actually used to put square tire setups on my old MR2s back when I was doing a lot of autocross, which came with staggered tires from the factory.)


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Same here -- would be interested to know.
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Old 02-02-2024, 12:43 PM
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Apples vs Oranges, staggered vs square: my experience using both on various non-Bmw vehicles.

I used a staggered setup on my first car (1956 Chevy) back in 1967; I used stock 6.70-15 bias-ply Atlas tires (bought from an Enco, now Exxon, service station) on the front, and put the new Firestone Wide-Oval tires in the rear. They were red-striped G70-15, bias-ply, and cost a bunch for a 16 y.o. kid, but not as much as the reproductions at Coker Tire do now($574 each).

With the sagged rear leaf springs raised up, and the staggered tires mounted, my Chevy looked great, but it aquaplaned like hell on my first drive in a heavy rain. Eventually, I learned to control it on snow and ice, too, but radials weren't a thing, yet, so I made do with bias-ply.

Next staggered setup was 12 years later, on my '86 S-10 extended cab pickup. I stuck with the stock 215/65-r15 tires on front, but added 255/60-r15 tires on back. I bought Dunlops for both ends, attracted by a buy two get two offer, and talked my way into getting the staggered set cheaply. I saw that the big Dunlops had a wide groove down the middle, which reminded me of the look of the dual tires on a late-'30's Auto-Union racer, so I just had to buy them.

That setup worked well, and the larger tires on back helped with handling and supporting heavy loads after I modded the springs and shocks. I used the same combo for another 16 years, before the S-10 got T-boned.

Then we get to my '66 Chevelle; I tried different staggered tire combos for different reasons, with different results.

First: when I bought it as a resto project, it had 6"x14" Cragars on front, and 10"x15" Cragars on back, with nearly new tires (215/70r14 front, 315/70r15 rear). It had air shocks on the rear, to make clearance for the 315's, but the left shocks airline blew out a few weeks later and the big tire and rear quarter panel had a severe interaction. After that, I went to 215/65r15 fronts and 275/60r15 on rear (still on Cragars), while it was still a street/strip car. No more air shocks, though.

Second: as a race car only, I used different front tire heights (to vary reaction times at the dragstrip) and went to using 4" "pizza cutter" wheels there,too. On the rear, I used 28" tall racing slicks on 8-10" wide wheels (M&H or Hoosier slicks on steel wheels to start, Mickey Thompson's later on).

However, on successive street vehicles, I've stuck with a square setup, both for ease of use (spare tire, rotation issues) and generally better balance and handling. And because, as an old guy, my experimental days are past.

I'm even OK with my X5' skinny 235/65r17's on Style 57 wheels. But, if I had the money to burn, someday I'd like to get some larger All-Terrain tires on it, just because.

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A recent massive over torquing of my lug bolts, coupled with our recent discussion of bolt plasticity, failure, etc. motivated me to replace my 20+ year old bolts. I am no expert for sure, but I wonder if they may have been stretched to, or beyond some limit. I needed a 3 jack handle on a 2 breaker bar to get them off. And even then it was a struggle.

New lug bolts, including a new locking style.


Side by side with the old locking style. The new one feels less likely to strip with its outside splines.


Its nice to do a job in the x5 where I didnt need to put it in the air!
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That was an ugly job I suspect
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Old 02-03-2024, 12:46 AM
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600 ftlb just rounded the nuts.

I cut one in half down the middle and drilled the other.

Took 270 ftlb to remove the cut and 330 to remove the drilled.


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Anyone know if there's any issue putting E70 style 214s on my 2003 E53 3.0?

I'm pretty sure they are OEM and not replicas - in which case they are 20" diameter, 10" front, 11" rear, 275/40/20 front 315/35/20 rear. Edit: I think the offsets are 37 front, 40 rear. Also I do understand I would need to get the appropriate hubcentric rings.

I need to get new tires for summer and thinking of upgrading from the style 57s I have. I use this car for towing so the big wide tires would be an upgrade from that point of view. They would be expensive to buy tires for, but I hardly drive this car except to tow the camper in the summer.
They would fit fine except you would need to get hub centric rings.
The center mounting hub on the E70 is a tad bigger than that of the E53, so when getting E70 rims for the E53, they would be a tad bigger and would possibly not be 100 percent centered over the hub when mounting those heavy wheels.
ALL e70 X5s ( except for X5M rear and all e71 X6s on the rear ) have a 74.1mm wheel hub. ALL e53 X5s have a 72.56mm wheel hub.
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Old 02-03-2024, 01:16 AM
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Get Plastic ones the aluminum ones will seize onto the hub. I was much happier with the plastic ones!
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