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Old 02-12-2015, 07:51 PM
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Indy (Zahntech Auto) cracked the issue- the CPS sensors were swapped!!! On the 2005 X5 N62 the sensors are different on the driver side The 2 camshaft position sensors, one for the exhaust camshaft (three pole connector, 12 14 7 518 628) and one for the intake camshaft (three pole pigtail lead cable, 12 14 7 539 172). Took them just an hour to figure out my mistake. I had carefully labeled all the connections during removal and not sure how I messed up during assembly....may be orientation of the label. Although I took many pictures next time I'll make sure to take pictures of just everything and not rely only on labeling.


Car runs strong, idles great and initial fixes I had done are all good. Now I think I'll reward myself with a Dynavin N6 upgrade
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Someone else on bmwcoders forum went through my pains with his 04 545 n62 V8 for 3 months and just resolved it in 20 minutes after seeing my post that my issue was the CPS sensors being backwards.

Caution for those who plan to do VCG on n62- the catch is that these sensors are listed as all the same part numbers (4 of them, two per bank), but on the 4.4 n62 bank2 actually has different sensors for exhaust and intake and it's very easy to mix them up!

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Thanks e39only, I wouldn't have believed it, but you were right. My sensors were backwards. I switched them out in 20 minutes, now all is Fine. I've been struggling with this issue for 3 months now, glad to be back on the road. Thanks again.
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By the way, I have 2 camshaft position sensors (driver side), 2 solenoid valves and a slightly cracked eccentric shaft sensor that work perfectly- they're factory and were replaced out of mistaken diagnosis. Let me know if you need any one of them.
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i did the same thing when I did my VCGs

but it threw different codes

I went to bmw and bought a new intake cam position sensor for the drivers side and when I compared it to what was installed I new the sensors were swaped
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[I][B]Indy (Zahntech Auto) cracked the issue- the CPS sensors were swapped!!! On the 2005 X5 N62 the sensors are different on the driver side The 2 camshaft position sensors, one for the exhaust camshaft (three pole connector, 12 14 7 518 628) and one for the intake camshaft (three pole pigtail lead cable, 12 14 7 539 172). Took them just an hour to figure out my mistake. I had carefully labeled all the connections during removal and not sure how I messed up during assembly....may be orientation of the label. Although I took many pictures next time I'll make sure to take pictures of just everything and not rely only on labeling. [I][B]
So i am new the this forum but not to BMW but I am having a bit of trouble here. I just picked up a 2006 X5 4.4 with the exact same codes that you have. The car has a CEL i pulled the codes and they are the same the idle is a rough startup and under hard power engine might cut off (limp Mode).


If i am not mistaken the sensors are on the rear towards the firewall. It's showing bank 2 so that's the driver side but i am trying to locate what sensors need to be replaced. I know the part numbers and what they look like but I cant find a picture of were they should go aka if they are mixed up. I can take a picture tomorrow but if you have a diagram that would be very helpful or picture even better. I did notice one of the two plugs was somewhat new also. Not sure if somebody replaced it thinking this was the main issue.

I also brought it to my BMW Tech today to have looked at before I found this thread. He suggested it could be that the vanos timing is off but idk if this is the case.

I plan on doing all the maintenance you mentioned in your first post but would like to have this resolved before jumping into everything else the car has 114k on it.

Thanks for the help!
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On my 2005 N62, the driver side sensors are different unlike the passenger side. The one with the pig tail is on the left and the other one without a pig tail is the bottom one on the right as you stand in front of the engine facing the driver. Both are on the rear towards driver side towards the firewall. Show me a picture of your current set up and I probably could tell if you've swapped them.

Start your investigations with the simple basic stuff. I too was overthinking and was already planning to retime the engine. Have you also tried doing a Ram_backup via INPA toolset32 as described earlier in this thread?
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On my 2005 N62, the driver side sensors are different unlike the passenger side. The one with the pig tail is on the left and the other one without a pig tail is the bottom one on the right as you stand in front of the engine facing the driver. Both are on the rear towards driver side towards the firewall. Show me a picture of your current set up and I probably could tell if you've swapped them.

Start your investigations with the simple basic stuff. I too was overthinking and was already planning to retime the engine. Have you also tried doing a Ram_backup via INPA toolset32 as described earlier in this thread?
Thanks for the quick reply. I just bought the car so I am not entirely sure what the previous owner did. I believe they are setup the way you describe but I will take a picture today and post it up.

I read about your ram-backup and I have not done that as of yet. I need to get INPA and Toolset32 installed on my computer first though. I will report back soon enough.
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realoem.com has diagrams that will show the parts and location
Yup very familiar with Real OEM been all over it. Real oem does not really show the location of the other sensor that well. I was online last night trying to find a more in depth diagram without any luck.

From what I have found is this, not a great overall view but gives you an idea.

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Yup very familiar with Real OEM been all over it. Real oem does not really show the location of the other sensor that well. I was online last night trying to find a more in depth diagram without any luck.

From what I have found is this, not a great overall view but gives you an idea.

Real OEM and even the dealer diagram/parts numbers all wrong- both listed all the 4 camshaft position sensors as part #12 14 7 518 628. Well, on my 2005 X5 N62 the sensors are different on the driver side The passenger side 2 camshaft position sensors- one for the exhaust camshaft part #12 14 7 518 628 and one for the intake camshaft (with pigtail lead cable) 12 14 7 539 172.
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Real OEM and even the dealer diagram/parts numbers all wrong- both listed all the 4 camshaft position sensors as part #12 14 7 518 628. Well, on my 2005 X5 N62 the sensors are different on the driver side The passenger side 2 camshaft position sensors- one for the exhaust camshaft part #12 14 7 518 628 and one for the intake camshaft (with pigtail lead cable) 12 14 7 539 172.
Ya sometimes you can't always rely on Real OEM. I have been cought up a few times with it.

Looks like the order is correct.... Don't mind all the oil, this engine is going to get a clean up with all new gaskets also.


Here is Bank 2




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