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This makes no rational sense. It's just 20/20 hindsight. You could just as easily say after they fit just fine that of course they fit, 3 out of 3 tire shops who do tires all day long every day of the week would of course know, having done it many times before. Anyway logic on the internet and all that...
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EVEN IF 20 SHOPS SUCCESSFULLY MOUNTED YOUR TIRES, they'd ALL be wrong! Do you think that "fitting" and "holding air" defines the suitability of the tire and rim sizing?!??!?! THAT makes no rational sense. The tire manufacturer engineers the tire to fit specific rim ranges- change that rim width beyond their specs and you have moved beyond their calcs on contact patch, sidewall dynamcs, wear, safety, handling, etc, etc. Logic and technical input on the internet and all that is- often- much better that the 'technical support' you get from the high school grads slinging rubber at the tire shop. Anyway. |
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After your clarification, I get your point. You believe that the rated wheel width for a tire should be adhered to. Simple idea, but communication on internet forums is not usually very good. Thanks for the input.
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Nathan - did you get the wheels/mounted? Pics, feedback appreciated.
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I've had the new replica rear wheels, rear spacers and all four tires mounted for about 2 weeks now, and put about 800 miles on them (took a trip to Eastern Oregon). So far the feedback I have is that the tires ride a bit smoother than the OEM RFTs and definitely soak up road imperfections better (assuming partly due to the taller sidewall).
The only "negative" I've found so far is that I *think* there is a scenario there the tires may rub in the wheel well... not certain yet but I have noticed twice that when backing up, with steering at full lock, and if I go over a bump, I have heard a short, slight noise that I can only describe as a "grunt" from the front area of the car. The windows were down both times and it sounded like it came from the outside. I'm not too concerned because like I said it has only happened in that rare scenario, but I thought it worth mentioning. The look is just what I wanted: a little beefier tire to fill out the wheel well and a little more tread to get around on dirt roads and snow, but I've yet to test it out on snow or much beyond light loose dirt. The aftermarket wheels don't exhibit any noticeable vibration at any speed. I did have the tire shop use their Hunter Road Force balancer so maybe that helped, dunno. My biggest question is how the finish will hold up compared to OEM... that's tbd. At the end of the day I'm happy to be free of the staggered tires, and I think the look is great (see pics below). I'll check back after the winter sometime to report on the snow traction for Mt. Hood ski weather. Thanks, Nathan |
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That looks great! I didn't see it mentioned.. Did you remember to switch to longer bolts when you added the spacers? It sounds like you did your research so I assumed you did, or measured and found that you didn't need to. Just wanted to make sure.
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They look good.
I'm 'stuck' with staggered - at least for summer. I have Scorpions in the full/staggered size for winter and am trying to decide to simply swap with summer tires as I have been doing or pony up for some wheels to help ease the transition. Thanks for posting back.
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digdesign, I did read the threads on spacers and bolt length. There seemed to be some confusion about whether the bolts that come with the spacers were too long, too short, not a problem... it wasn't clear to me whether people were having issues with the bolts bottoming out on the hub, bottoming out on the spacer, or not reaching through to one or the other.
So anyway when I got the wheel off (and wire-brushed off the rust on the hub) I checked to make sure the bolts that come with the H&R spacer (which are shorter, and go through the spacer into the hub) did protrude through the spacer any farther than the stock lug bolts protrude through the wheel. We (the tire shop guy and I) installed them by hand and hand torqued them. I also made sure the spacer was thick enough that it could accommodate the whole lug bolt coming through the wheel... it clearly had a few mm of extra room at the end. So anyway, no issues on inspection and no issues installing, that's at least with the 25mm spacers. I could imagine the thinner spacers having issues with the lug bolts going all the way through and bottoming out on the hub, but otherwise unless there is a bolt head protruding past the face of the spacer, I'm not sure what could be going wrong for others. Just my experience, who knows maybe I'll take them off to rotate them and find they've all stripped or seized... I'll be sure to post back here if that happens |
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