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The RPM window you mentioned is for the peak torque.However the 35D have usable range from 1200 to 4500 rpm.In the city cycle I stay between 1300 and 2000 rpm.Sometimes even go to manual mode to upshift quickly. As I mentioned before,the 6sp is a downside for the E70D,but not that huge. And yes,the wheel torque is what matters.That is the reason why gas engine will be always faster than a similar diesel engine.Many people dont realize that the final ratio is actually a torque multiplier. |
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I have owned both 35d and 35i. I like the gas N55 a LOT more. A big thing for me is that there is no vibration while idling at a stoplight. I was tired of the diesel vibration. The gas engine has a sexy sound and the mileage is just about the same on the highway. I would say it is about 1/2 mpg less on hwy and 1-2 mpg less around town than the diesel 6 speed.
I will get a gas engine with next X5 also because Illinois sells only B20 biodiesel.
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That is probably because you have never driven 80s and 90s diesels
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vs the F15... I vote touareg V8... Drove a 2013 one for almost a month and loved it. Its got more power than my 40d, more torque, economy is relatively similar, and the ride with the air suspension is
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I had the 328d as a loaner and I thought its power was fantastic and I didn't think the transmission shifted too much. I also dislike the new electric steering however, numb, void of road feel, not BMW like. Why I chose to buy an older E90 after selling my X. I've witnessed this same steering feel on the 5 series when I had those as loaners as well.
I didn't buy my diesel E70 for the fuel savings, I bought it for the stump pulling torque and to tow my boat with. Our diesel prices varied anyways and I paid pretty much $3.70 a gallon here in Portland which isn't far off from premium and typically was less. I would imagine with a performance tune there is a lot more to unleash with that engine and it could have been fun to try that out. At freeway speed was hard to tell it was a diesel anyway but what a great road car. I did think it could be a bit more refined (at first) at city speeds; but it grew on me. It flat out blew the pants off my best friends 2009 X5 with the 3.0si gas engine. As far as anything VW/Audi related (for me) I'd never go back to that brand after my getting burned on a Touareg. Reliability is just stinky and dealer service experience for me wasn't anything like at BMW. And it's well known reliability isn't VW's strength. Diesel is pure personal preference. Also - as mentioned, try driving a 80's/90's diesel...I had a 1981 VW Rabbit diesel and learned all about vibration, horrid exhaust fumes, and tortoise like acceleration.
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I had the 328d as a loaner and I thought its power was fantastic and I didn't think the transmission shifted too much. I also dislike the new electric steering however, numb, void of road feel, not BMW like. Why I chose to buy an older E90 after selling my X. I've witnessed this same steering feel on the 5 series when I had those as loaners as well.
I didn't buy my diesel E70 for the fuel savings, I bought it for the stump pulling torque and to tow my boat with. Our diesel prices varied anyways and I paid pretty much $3.70 a gallon here in Portland which isn't far off from premium and typically was less. I would imagine with a performance tune there is a lot more to unleash with that engine and it could have been fun to try that out. At freeway speed was hard to tell it was a diesel anyway but what a great road car. I did think it could be a bit more refined (at first) at city speeds; but it grew on me. It flat out blew the pants off my best friends 2009 X5 with the 3.0si gas engine. As far as anything VW/Audi related (for me) I'd never go back to that brand after my getting burned on a Touareg. Reliability is just stinky and dealer service experience for me wasn't anything like at BMW. And it's well known reliability isn't VW's strength. Diesel is pure personal preference. Also - as mentioned, try driving a 80's/90's diesel...I had a 1981 VW Rabbit diesel and learned all about vibration, horrid exhaust fumes, and tortoise like acceleration.
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try driving a 80's/90's diesel...I had a 1981 VW Rabbit diesel and learned all about vibration, horrid exhaust fumes, and tortoise like acceleration.
Or how about a 1978 Rabbit diesel...my first car..routinely broke the exhaust flex pipe between the down pipe and main exhaust due to vibration. Good news was I could kill anyone following too close by downshifting from 3rd to 2nd with the cloud of smoke and only needed a 10mm socket wrench and phillips head screwdriver to perform a rotisserie restoration!
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it depends on the owner and the amount and type of driving the individual does... for most people the premium doesn't make sense. same with hybrid/electric.
friend of mine was in the market for a commuter car and she does about 4k a year she wanted the civic hybrid and it just didn't make sense her break even point was well beyond the time frame of her keeping it or even benefiting from savings. |
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