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mam4.6 12-04-2014 10:41 AM

I'll check out his DA to see exactly what he's got. Thanks for the advice on Phil's package, I think I'll probably go with that. Like you said, with the proper pad/polish combo on a DA, I'm sure I can get my desired results. I'll make sure to get some smaller pads, info like that is what makes getting started easier. Thanks!

The wax I currently have is Meguiars Ultimate Liquid Wax, I've also used their NXT Tech Wax.

I'll get back to you if I need anything once I get started. I'm planning on getting some good before/after/progress pics once I get there.

Ricky Bobby 12-04-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mam4.6 (Post 1018702)
I'll check out his DA to see exactly what he's got. Thanks for the advice on Phil's package, I think I'll probably go with that. Like you said, with the proper pad/polish combo on a DA, I'm sure I can get my desired results. I'll make sure to get some smaller pads, info like that is what makes getting started easier. Thanks!

The wax I currently have is Meguiars Ultimate Liquid Wax, I've also used their NXT Tech Wax.

I'll get back to you if I need anything once I get started. I'm planning on getting some good before/after/progress pics once I get there.

If you order a GG6 package from Phil, order the one with 5 Uber Foam pads, get 3 orange and 2 green pads. I don't use the black (waxing) as I do it by hand, the yellow is too aggressive, and the blue is only for ultra soft paints like Infiniti for jeweling. Order a 2 pack, or 2- 2 packs of Megs MF cutting pads (5.5"), Phil sends all 5.5" pads and a vented 5" backing plate with his GG6 packages. You still have the option to use 6.5" pads because the plate comes with the machine but you get better correction with 5.5" pads trust me.

Wow, NXT Tech Wax, that was on my shelf 12 years ago when I got my permit at 16, and was waxing my first car in my garage lol! Its a good wax but it doesn't last as long and has some fillers which I don't like in my waxes.

Recommend Collinite 845, Menzerna Power Lock, or Sonax PNS for final LSP, use the Tech Wax and Ultimate Liquid wax on door jambs and wheels or other equipment/cars to use it up IMO.

mam4.6 12-04-2014 10:57 AM

I've never been real impressed with any wax I've used. Sure, they look good right after you're finished but don't last worth squat! Really lookin forward to checkin the good stuff out...

Ricky Bobby 12-04-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mam4.6 (Post 1018709)
I've never been real impressed with any wax I've used. Sure, they look good right after you're finished but don't last worth squat! Really lookin forward to checkin the good stuff out...

Collinite will last 4 months or more, Power Lock and PNS I get about 5-6 months out of one application. And the slickness and shine of Power Lock is unreal

mam4.6 12-04-2014 12:22 PM

You say Power Lock is great for gloss and shine. I've read PNS doesn't have that smooth-to-the-touch feel, but has great shine. Just personal preference between the two? Also, can these be layered? Does the original coat need to be removed before a 6 month re-application?

Ricky Bobby 12-04-2014 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mam4.6 (Post 1018732)
You say Power Lock is great for gloss and shine. I've read PNS doesn't have that smooth-to-the-touch feel, but has great shine. Just personal preference between the two? Also, can these be layered? Does the original coat need to be removed before a 6 month re-application?

Both are great for gloss and shine and durability, and hydrophobic properties. Difference is the "surface feel", application method, and that's pretty much it.

Application method - Power Lock is traditional liquid applied with a foam or MF applicator, left to haze and wipe off residues. PNS is literally you can spray on the surface (it comes out the viscosity of a thicker QD), wipe it in and off immediately, needs no "rubbing in" or set up time. If it stays on the surface any longer than a minute or so it will dry up rock hard like a coating, and only more PNS would remove it. Literally spray it on a half a panel, take an MF towel (I prefer a lower nap and gsm for removal, not the ultra plush towels), wipe it in and off to reveal clean and shiny paint. Works AMAZING for wheels as opposed to a liquid product regarding ease of application.

If you ran your (clean) hands over two panels of paint, one sealed with Power Lock and one sealed with PNS and left to cure overnight, the PNS side would feel markedly different than the Power Lock side. Its just the nature of it. It's smooth, for sure, but Power Lock is SLICK. As in you can throw a sock on your hood and it will slide right off.

As far as layering goes, for both I'd perhaps do a second coat within a week but other than that no other topper products are needed until the 4-6 month mark or until you notice the beads aren't as tight as normal, and I wouldn't mix the two (i.e. PNS over Power Lock, etc). You'll notice when the sealant degrades a bit. I rarely ever do strip washes either, as when I am ready to reapply my twice yearly sealant its also time to decon, and between the decon spray, Nanoscrub mitt, and clay bar use, that will strip away whats left.

Personally I have uses for both in my garage and regimen so I'd just get both, I love the super slick feel of Power Lock so I tend to keep that on my cars, and I love the durability and ease of application of PNS so I tend to use that exclusively on wheels, exhaust tips, and door jambs, under hood panels, and other hard to reach areas that I couldn't get to with a foam applicator and a liquid product, where its much easier to "spray and wipe away".

mam4.6 12-04-2014 01:13 PM

Very cool, great info! I'll grab both and experiment! THANKS!

Ricky Bobby 12-04-2014 01:31 PM

You'll love both Matt be sure to show me your results and progress.

mam4.6 12-04-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby (Post 1018745)
Be sure to show me your results and progress.

Most certainly!!

mam4.6 12-07-2014 06:09 PM

Just ordered a boat load of supplies from DD! Can't wait to try them out. I'll hopefully be able to post up some pics soon of the paint correction I need to do...


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