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powerlord 09-06-2006 03:29 AM

TMC is green: where are the roadworks ?
 
Finally got the right vdo CD with TMC codes for my Mk3.

TMC is now green! wahee !

but in my area (ipswich, UK) there doesn't appear to be any traffic POIs shown anywhere.

If I move the map to around the M25 there still isn't.

Does it just show traffic problems in your local area ? i.e. would I need to physically drive to a traffic black spot to see POIs appear on my map ?

stu

Chris_h 09-06-2006 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerlord
Finally got the right vdo CD with TMC codes for my Mk3.

TMC is now green! wahee !

but in my area (ipswich, UK) there doesn't appear to be any traffic POIs shown anywhere.

If I move the map to around the M25 there still isn't.

Does it just show traffic problems in your local area ? i.e. would I need to physically drive to a traffic black spot to see POIs appear on my map ?

stu

You will only get traffic alerts (AFAIK) if you have programmed in a route.

powerlord 09-06-2006 04:51 AM

ah. thought that might be the case.

I did try stuffing a route in, but obviously it was a traffic free one!

I'll have another play tonight.

I must admit, as a new X5 owner, I'm luvin the car.. got my ipod fitted in the drinks bit under the slider for easy control, sat upgraded... it's the mutts nutts.

stu

powerlord 09-06-2006 05:05 AM

sig test. :-)

catboy 09-06-2006 05:22 AM

you also need to be tuned to the right radio station for tmc to work.. if you have a single tuner, then it needs to be on classic fm I think for the uk (when you are listening to the radio) or if you are listening to cd/tape I think it will go to classic fm automatically in the background?..

I had classic fm as a stored station just incase so its kind of already looking at it when I had a single tuner, but upgraded to a dual tuner; the secondary tuner will always be tuned to classic fm or whatever the local tmc channel is, regardless of whats happening with the radio/cd/tape

Not sure which tuner is in the X5 as standard..

b :)

powerlord 09-06-2006 06:12 AM

yeh mine has the dual tuner.

And its picking up.tuned to classic as it's green.

It was grey with my old non TMC CD, and RED when you first switch on (not tuned in).

stu

RichardP1 09-06-2006 07:07 AM

TMC is 'localised' a bit by the Nav computer (or radio).

If TMC is green then you should be able to see symbols on the map where there are traffic warnings, if you zoom out you should see them somewhere.

Also, you can get a list of all TMC message by going to the Destination input menu, then scroll down until you get to "Traffic Information", then from that menu select "Message List". That should give you a list of all messages that you are currently receiving.

powerlord 09-06-2006 08:48 AM

thanks Richard. yeh tried that, and there were no messages in the list... so either it was the one minute in UK history with no traffic jams, it's localised, or it's cuffed.

I will investigate further this evening....

stu

john348 09-06-2006 12:53 PM

I think it takes some time to get the messages. THey are ordinary sms type messages but sent within the radio carrier. You might find they only start coming after quite a few minutes from each time you switch on. Mine also show up even if there is not route set they are just different colours if they are on the route (I think grey if off route).

john

pdstreeter 09-18-2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerlord
Finally got the right vdo CD with TMC codes for my Mk3.

TMC is now green! wahee !

but in my area (ipswich, UK) there doesn't appear to be any traffic POIs shown anywhere.

If I move the map to around the M25 there still isn't.

Does it just show traffic problems in your local area ? i.e. would I need to physically drive to a traffic black spot to see POIs appear on my map ?

stu

I think you will find that TMC only works with DVD navigation system

RichardP1 09-18-2006 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdstreeter
I think you will find that TMC only works with DVD navigation system

No, it's dependent on the Map disk, I had it working in my previous car with a Mk III. The early BMW map CD's did not have TMC codes, not sure about later ones as I've not used them. All the 'high' DVD's do have TMC codes as do some CD maps from VDO.

pdstreeter 09-18-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by powerlord
Finally got the right vdo CD with TMC codes for my Mk3.

TMC is now green! wahee !

but in my area (ipswich, UK) there doesn't appear to be any traffic POIs shown anywhere.

If I move the map to around the M25 there still isn't.

Does it just show traffic problems in your local area ? i.e. would I need to physically drive to a traffic black spot to see POIs appear on my map ?

stu

I had this problem myself, and a big argument with BMW since the instruction book with my Mk3 seemed to be telling me that TMC should work. Here's an extract from an email from BMW customer service:
"
From production September 2003, all cars fitted with navigation systems benefited from the introduction of a DVD disc based system and the introduction of TMC. To reflect this change, all navigation options increased in price at this time in order for customer to pay for this new technology. We can confirm that you purchased your vehicle before these changes took place and did not purchase the navigation system which included TMC.

If you would like this function on your vehicle, it may be possible for you to enable the TMC at your local BMW Dealership. We would advise you to speak to the Parts Department situated within your local dealership who will be able to submit a Technical enquiry which will determine if it is possible to activate this function on your specific vehicle or not. If this upgrade is possible, they will then be able to inform you of the costs of retro fitting this function.

If you require the contact details of your local BMW Dealership, you are able to locate this information on our website www.bmw.co.uk.

We are sorry that this may not be the answer that you may have anticipated and hope this clarifies why TMC is stated in the handbook and on your vehicle but is currently unavailable for you to use.



RichardP1 09-18-2006 02:56 PM

Your reply from BMW is correct, they did not include the required codes on the CD map disks, only the DVD map disks. However, they this is not the only way to enable TMC on the BMW nav system.

In Europe you will find that TMC works even with the BMW CD maps, this is beacuse TMC is run as a free service and does not require codes on the map disk. In the UK the service is run by a company called ITIS, they get their income by charging more for a map disk that has the required TMC codes.

The BMW system is basically a badged VDO Dayton system, you can use the VDO Dayton map CD's in a MK III (I did when I had mine). If you go to the VDO Dayton shop http://www.vdodayton-shop.com/start....=18&ShowLand=1 (for some reason this page always comes up in German, even though the link is from the English version of the page! If you want it in English then start from the www.vdodayton-shop.com page and navigate through to the UK map disks) you will see that there are two versions of the UK/Ireland map CD, one with and one without ITIS TMS codes.

pdstreeter 09-18-2006 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardP1
Your reply from BMW is correct, they did not include the required codes on the CD map disks, only the DVD map disks. However, they this is not the only way to enable TMC on the BMW nav system.

In Europe you will find that TMC works even with the BMW CD maps, this is beacuse TMC is run as a free service and does not require codes on the map disk. In the UK the service is run by a company called ITIS, they get their income by charging more for a map disk that has the required TMC codes.

The BMW system is basically a badged VDO Dayton system, you can use the VDO Dayton map CD's in a MK III (I did when I had mine). If you go to the VDO Dayton shop http://www.vdodayton-shop.com/start....=18&ShowLand=1 (for some reason this page always comes up in German, even though the link is from the English version of the page! If you want it in English then start from the www.vdodayton-shop.com page and navigate through to the UK map disks) you will see that there are two versions of the UK/Ireland map CD, one with and one without ITIS TMS codes.

I found another fix - buy a later model with Mk4 DVD nav!

RichardP1 09-19-2006 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdstreeter
I found another fix - buy a later model with Mk4 DVD nav!

That would do it! :) Or buy a MK IV Nav computer, they are externally identical and have the same connections.


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