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Old 09-15-2009, 10:00 AM
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Personally, i believe Kanye needs to step away from the biz for some time and allow himself to heal/mourn the sudden passing of his mother. I don't believe he allowed himself to do so...instead burying himself into his work and the demanding projects of other artists.
West has been having boorish outbursts for years, long before his mother died.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:17 AM
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West has been having boorish outbursts for years, long before his mother died.
No kidding...he also said he would stop around the time she passed.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:36 AM
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This is at least the 2nd time that I recall. Remember the time he opined that Sgt. Crowley "acted stupidly".
Thanks for helping me negating that! Back to be indifferently disapproving of Obama
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:03 AM
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Whether you care to or not...hear from Kanye for yourselves:

Hulu - The Jay Leno Show: Kanye West

And i'll say it...the only time i agreed with his outbursts was during the hurricane Katrina telethon. Except he should have said that Fush doesn't care about all people.

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Old 09-15-2009, 11:22 AM
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"J" ask him a great question.

"What do you think you're mother would
have said about this"
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:32 AM
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Wow! I actually agree with Obama!!! And yes, Kanye is a racist jackass.

I also agree that Beyonce showed some real class by allowing Taylor Swift to finish her acceptance speech.
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C'mon...a racist? And spoiled by whom? How do you arrive at that? Many things he is but a racist and spoiled he isn't. Not making excuses for the guy but when one comes from very humble beginnings and suddenly become rich, often times they lose themselves and a sense of reality, becoming a completely different person/character.

The voting process of numerous award shows have been questionable in the industry for some time now, Kanye just tastelessly says out loud what many are thinking. There was also a number of boos and heckling going on amongst other artists, but due to the broadcast delay, and especially after Kanye's rant, they were cut from the feed.

Personally, i believe Kanye needs to step away from the biz for some time and allow himself to heal/mourn the sudden passing of his mother. I don't believe he allowed himself to do so...instead burying himself into his work and the demanding projects of other artists.
but that's just what you did! "not making excuses for the guy" - I'm just making the same claim you would if someone blew his cool over a black hip-hop artist beating a white CW artist in some music category - when the reverse is true, it's not racist? So it's alright for a black to yell out his opinion, but not a white (Rep. Wilson)? Beyonce' got her due, and showed class and manners Kanye has yet to learn. the crowd clearly felt his "opinion" was not the "opinion" of the crowd or the voters, despite your assumption, "what many are thinking". The lame excuse that sudden riches allows someone to be something other than a "normal" polite, well mannered person, just does not float. Money, like power, often shows the true nature of a person. In Kanye's case, arrogant, ill-mannered, spoiled child, and racist all fit.
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Firstly, if you notice i did not include the political analogy, you did, i won't draw a parallel between a serious political matter and a music video celebration. I made zero excuses for the guy so please go back and read my statement. My comment was based on working the event, being there in the flesh and pointed out events not aired.

Secondly, basing your allegation of him being a racist because of his action at the VMA's and similar antics is absolutely ridiculous. These antics and protests have been happening for years if you follow such events. So everyone who rudely stormed a stage in the past to protest a nod or win by someone of another color is a racist?! ...seriously? that's your basis?

Lastly, yes, the format and voting processes have definitely become questionable over the years. It's not an assumption but a fact and common knowledge of the industry...there were several other awards announced that were not met with due fanfare at this particular event. There are many reasons for broadcast delay, apart from the obvious.



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but that's just what you did! "not making excuses for the guy" - I'm just making the same claim you would if someone blew his cool over a black hip-hop artist beating a white CW artist in some music category - when the reverse is true, it's not racist? So it's alright for a black to yell out his opinion, but not a white (Rep. Wilson)? Beyonce' got her due, and showed class and manners Kanye has yet to learn. the crowd clearly felt his "opinion" was not the "opinion" of the crowd or the voters, despite your assumption, "what many are thinking". The lame excuse that sudden riches allows someone to be something other than a "normal" polite, well mannered person, just does not float. Money, like power, often shows the true nature of a person. In Kanye's case, arrogant, ill-mannered, spoiled child, and racist all fit.

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Old 09-15-2009, 02:37 PM
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Ah yes the ole money won't change ya argument.

Actually the love of money is one of the greatest problems people face today.
Normal" polite, well mannered people will lie, cheat, and steal to get money to
buy what they want or think they need. Give them too much of it and the basic
instinct of bad character in all of us that lies beneath the surface rears it's ugly head.
"Enter Kanya West" and perhaps many of the rest of us. We just never know
until our ship sails

On the other hand people who's cash flow gets low or dissappears will resort to
behaviour they will excuse as the need for survival.

Either way money can change us. For better or worse is
indeed a challenge.
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I made zero excuses for the guy so please go back and read my statement.
Well...you said "not making excuses for the guy", but then you mentioned him going from rags to riches and the fact that the voting process for award shows were flawed, so you sort of did.
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