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Of course there are. What do you mean by compare or study? Who has posted a comparison?
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Sorry I was referring to in general...
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Let's pick a number. About 100,000 breakthrough cases and 188,000,000 vaccinated. That would be around .00052967%. To get to 1% there would have to be 1,880,000 breakthrough cases. Not trying to say breakthrough cases are not a concern but IMO it is not a viable position for someone, not including you, that breakthrough cases are a reason that the vaccines are ineffective or a position that the reason one is not getting vaccinated is it doesn't matter because of the number of breakthrough cases. I admire your patience. I could use more.
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We already agreed, 940 is not correct. Nice math, by the way! Generally, if there is any doubt, somebody(s) will be concerned. Breakthrough’s may be one reason. But, I am sure there are other reasons as well. Patience is a Virtue..! The ability to wait for something without frustration. This is an extremely useful skill and a good aspect of one’s personality. This is how I pursue life. I believe 1/10TH is still too slim.
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Didn't mean for you to take it as impugning your pride, etc. only that too many people just take whatever they are told as gospel since it comes from a tv anchor, politician, doctor or whatever with the belief that they MUST know correctly. But many of (if not all) get some kind of messiah complex and refuse to even make a cognizant argument for their position. I check everything and that's why I'm still alive. I had a doctor keep saying an MRI wouldn't be a problem for me even though one of my injuries is from frag. If I had just accepted his "expertise" the MRI most likely would have pulled the metal through my intestines or liver. I view this vaccine/virus issue based on odds. Let's say in one area you have a 10% chance of getting covid19 without being vaccinated, if you do catch it you (1-25 years old) have a 99.7% chance of survival.... If you get the vaccine you have a 50% chance of some side effect. If you're unlucky enough to be one of the 50%, then as a male (1-25) you have a +/- 20% chance of getting it being life altering myocarditis. Those odds make the risk higher for children to get the vaccine vs. covid19 and remember to figure the age/sex not just for side effects but for risk of death from covid19. Most numbers are done as say 150,000,000 total vaccinated vs 25,000,000 (15-25) vaccinated of which 50% are male and 20% getting myocarditis = huge risk numbers Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk
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On the topic of breakthrough cases, what do you guys think about the plane of 55 Democrats who were all fully vaccinated before flight, but after, six came forward with positive covid test results (who knows if others kept quiet).
That’s an 11% breakthrough rate. Source: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/18/polit...-19/index.html Sent from my iPhone using Xoutpost.com
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In addition, we don't know if any of the passengers had compromised immune systems or the quality of the air circulation system.
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See blue inserts of CDC information.
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"Most numbers are done as say 150,000,000 total vaccinated vs 25,000,000 (15-25) vaccinated of which 50% are male and 20% getting myocarditis = huge risk numbers" ~EODGUY
As I said previously (above) they mix numbers to obfuscate the problems. Among persons with reported myocarditis after mRNA vaccination, the median age was 26 years (range*=*12–94 years), with median symptom onset interval of 3 days after vaccination (range*=*0–179). Among 1,194 reports for which patient age was known, 687 were among persons aged <30 years and 507 were among persons aged ≥30 years; of 1,212 with sex reported, 923 were male, and 289 were female.§§ Myocarditis causes damage to the heart muscles usually via scarring and as I'm sure you know. Damage done to heart muscle does NOT heal back to previous levels of health and leaves one open to cardiac events more easily. So you are basically aging someone's heart maybe 1 year, 20 years or more depending on damage and no one wants to have their child end up with a heart like a middle aged person. Getting a vaccine should always be an individual's decision but to mandate shots for school aged children (under 18) the LEAST at risk for death from covid19 yet with the highest risk of heart damage makes zero sense. Sent from my SM-A730F using Tapatalk
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