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Yeah, and it wasn't about race when Joe Libermann jumped party lines to support McCain. You see how stupid that sounds? Sounds like you are the one who is hung up on this issue.

There were several Conservatives/Republicans who threw their support behind Barack well before Powell made his announcement.

How come it is not an issue when white folks support each other. However when one prominent black person supports another, it must be racially motivated?

From listening to Powell's endorsement he seemed to have thought carefully about his choice, and laid out his reasons in plain, rational terms.
Excuse me...Colin Powell was the first one to pull the "Race" card. Note the quote where he emphasizes "African American" President. Funny that he clarifies his position after the fact that has nominating has "Nothing" to do with race. Why then did he emphasize the fact that his "African American" heritage was the "electrifying" factor?

Hey Krimson...You need to focus your rage at Colin Powell who made this a racial issue in the first place.
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Yeah, and it wasn't about race when Joe Libermann jumped party lines to support McCain. You see how stupid that sounds? Sounds like you are the one who is hung up on this issue.

There were several Conservatives/Republicans who threw their support behind Barack well before Powell made his announcement.

How come it is not an issue when white folks support each other. However when one prominent black person supports another, it must be racially motivated?

From listening to Powell's endorsement he seemed to have thought carefully about his choice, and laid out his reasons in plain, rational terms.
Lieberman did not say prior to his support of John McCain that electing another "White" man would electrify the world.

You'll need to find another example if you want to make a point.
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How come it is not an issue when white folks support each other. However when one prominent black person supports another, it must be racially motivated?

From listening to Powell's endorsement he seemed to have thought carefully about his choice, and laid out his reasons in plain, rational terms.
Gotta agree here....the good General put it on the table. He used great logic and gave a detailed explanation for supporting Obama. Why must there always be a racial undertone when a black supports Obama?......Phil
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Gotta agree here....the good General put it on the table. He used great logic and gave a detailed explanation for supporting Obama. Why must there always be a racial undertone when a black supports Obama?......Phil
PLEASE...I'm not letting you off that easy.

"Colin Powell, the first African-American Secretary of State, said this afternoon that electing an African-American US president would be “electrifying” for the world

Please show me what part of this exact quote prior to his endorsement mention Obama by name or his qualifications to be President of the United States?

Before any of you Obama supporters say I'm cherry picking please explain how Colin Powell's above quote does not qualify as a racially motivated.

I'm anxiously waiting.
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Ok let's try and stay on track.....

"What impact will Colin Powell's endorsement have?"
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Ok let's try and stay on track.....

"What impact will Colin Powell's endorsement have?"
I'll honestly answer your question if you answer mine.

Nice way to avoid the difficult question though...
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Now to clarify all of this.......

Mr. Powell made these statements on Sept 15th.

Appearing today at George Washington University with four other former US Secretaries of State -- Madeleine Albright, James Baker, Warren Christopher, and Henry Kissinger -- Powell and the panel were asked by a student whether they thought America electing Obama president would send a more powerful image overseas than John McCain.

Baker and Albright spoke first and said they both thought it would be significant, but Baker noted he was still voting Republican. “I think electing the first African-American president would send a powerful message not just abroad but in this country as well. Having said that I have, of course, endorsed Sen. McCain,” Baker said to much laughter.

Albright followed up and got a huge round of applause from the college audience for her presidential choice. “I think it would send a huge message in terms of what America stands for and in terms of diversity and potential. And I, of course, am supporting Sen. Obama,” she said.

Then came Powell. “[T]o send that kind of a message, I think would be electrifying,” he said, “but at the same time, we have to make a judgment here ... which of the candidates blends a right measure of experience and judgment? I have been watching both of these individuals, and I know them both extremely well and I have not decided who I’m going to vote for yet.”

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If you blame Mr. Powell for playing the race card ( which is the dumbest statement you could make in this case) Then you have to blame all of them for doing the same.

But let's be realistic. If it was the first Irish American, or the first German American, or the first Native American, Or the first Polish American would it matter as much as it being the first African American?

Wouldn't it be just as important if it was the first of any specific ethnic group. I mean really how immature it is to take the comments that someone makes and assume their playing a race card because their ethnic background is being mentioned.

Come on folks "GROW UP" You make yourself very small by dwelling on this as if it's a negative issue. If you have any class why not try to find something good about it.....
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Now to clarify all of this.......

Mr. Powell made these statements on Sept 15th.

Appearing today at George Washington University with four other former US Secretaries of State -- Madeleine Albright, James Baker, Warren Christopher, and Henry Kissinger -- Powell and the panel were asked by a student whether they thought America electing Obama president would send a more powerful image overseas than John McCain.

Baker and Albright spoke first and said they both thought it would be significant, but Baker noted he was still voting Republican. “I think electing the first African-American president would send a powerful message not just abroad but in this country as well. Having said that I have, of course, endorsed Sen. McCain,” Baker said to much laughter.

Albright followed up and got a huge round of applause from the college audience for her presidential choice. “I think it would send a huge message in terms of what America stands for and in terms of diversity and potential. And I, of course, am supporting Sen. Obama,” she said.

Then came Powell. “[T]o send that kind of a message, I think would be electrifying,” he said, “but at the same time, we have to make a judgment here ... which of the candidates blends a right measure of experience and judgment? I have been watching both of these individuals, and I know them both extremely well and I have not decided who I’m going to vote for yet.”

If you blame Mr. Powell for playing the race card ( which is the dumbest statement you could make in this case) Then you have to blame all of them for doing the same.

But let's be realistic. If it was the first Irish American, or the first German American, or the first Native American, Or the first Polish American would it matter as much as it being the first African American?

Wouldn't it be just as important if it was the first of any specific ethnic group. I mean really how immature it is to take the comments that someone makes and assume their playing a race card because their ethnic background is being mentioned.

Come on folks "GROW UP" You make yourself very small by dwelling on this as if it's a negative issue. If you have any class why not try to find something good about it.....
After the fact...Nice try tough.
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Dude i don't mean to be disrespectful but i believe you have a serious problem and need some help. This thread was not about race but it appears you decided to make it so. You have a right to express your opinion but really I'm finding that you seem to suffer from excesses in racial and other trivialities. Perhaps you might consider upgrading the content of your comments to include something more substantial than irrevelant issues like "who's playing the race card". Try answering the question that started this thread..

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Figures;

Just like a little kid..... Grow up bro

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I'll honestly answer your question if you answer mine.

Nice way to avoid the difficult question though...
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