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Old 09-14-2009, 09:38 PM
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Did you see this opening statement by Mike Rogers on Healthcare?

YouTube - Congressman Mike Rogers' opening statement on Health Care reform in Washington D.C.
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:51 PM
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It's not just about insuring the 15% of the uninsured, it is also about making existing healthcare more affordable for the other 85%. My healthcare premiums are outpacing my salary increases. Just this year they went up 9.5%
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that's some plain talking

I would love to have healthcare coverage, but since I'm over 300lbs, I'm not elligible.

Yes, I'm one of the uninsured, but that DOES NOT MEAN I DON'T GET HEALTHCARE. I see my doctors, pay for my presciptions. Fortunately, I only have to worry about me and not a family. But my doctor bills are typically discounted, because I pay vs the hasle & paperwork of dealing with an insurance company.

But now under this proposed "healthcare bill', I will have to pay an extra $1000 BECAUSE I'M NOT INSURED!!!!!

WHY aren't the Dems spelling out EXACTLY what's in the bill? WHY aren't they telling us EXACTLY HOW this bill will "reduce my costs"? WHY is Obama being nothing more than a cheerleader, rather than actually calling the plays and explaining exactly what he wants done? Specifics? WHY are the Dems going back into the bill to make sure what Rep. Wilson yelled, was not actually the truth?
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Well, it is a plain-talking style, and he delivers his message well.

OTOH, he doesn't seem to be too concerned about the facts, rather he continues to lower the debate. Too bad.
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Well, it is a plain-talking style, and he delivers his message well.

OTOH, he doesn't seem to be too concerned about the facts, rather he continues to lower the debate. Too bad.
"lower the debate"???? seems to me that he's reminding us that we can do (and have done) better, especially that innovation does not come from government, but from normal people (not in government) and government getting out of their way
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plain talking is the only thing most of those "genius" senators can understand sometimes
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"lower the debate"???? seems to me that he's reminding us that we can do (and have done) better, especially that innovation does not come from government, but from normal people (not in government) and government getting out of their way
By "lower the debate" I was referring to his disregard of certain facts. Use a site like factcheck.org, or other non-political sites, and look into some of his claims. I just picked up the ones about breast cancer survivor rates (widely discredited), punishing those who have health insurance, the reference to 15% not covered while ignoring the fact that many with valid insurance get coverage denied, the confusion of government insurance options with goverment provided healthcare delivery, fear tactics on denial of services, and so on.

I am interested in your claim that innovation doesn't come from government. I thought it was the US government that put a man on the moon. Lots of innovation there. It was just the first example that came to mind, I am sure there are others.
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