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Old 01-24-2021, 02:20 PM
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https://www.military.com/daily-news/...-sec-says.html

Where was our military ousted from?

As long as the press secretary continues to answer the questions of the press and the Biden administration focuses on the right things I don't expect an adversarial relationship with the press. Biden does not view the press as his enemy. His intent is to have an open transparent daily dialogue.

From, The People House, to a parking lot.

So maybe even worse. Per your link, they spent time talking about an issue, that is not an issue? But spent no time at all discussing the ousting of our troops.

Incredible!
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From, The People House, to a parking lot.

So maybe even worse. Per your link, they spent time talking about an issue, that is not an issue? But spent no time at all discussing the ousting of our troops.

Incredible!
There is nothing in the link I posted that even suggests Biden has been involved in anything concerning the colors of Air Force one.

I see, you're talking about the troops sleeping in the parking garage. That was a military decision that the military is addressing. It's not necessary for Biden team to be involved, it's being handled.

FYI-The Air Force is preparing a new Air Force 1. As it stands it will be painted red, white and blue per Trump decision. I expect the Air Force at some point to request the colors return to the light blue bottom. That color was chosen in the past because it is harder to see from the ground as it 'matches' the color of the sky. It was chosen for safety.
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Old 01-25-2021, 04:00 PM
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There is nothing in the link I posted that even suggests Biden has been involved in anything concerning the colors of Air Force one.

I see, you're talking about the troops sleeping in the parking garage. That was a military decision that the military is addressing. It's not necessary for Biden team to be involved, it's being handled.

FYI-The Air Force is preparing a new Air Force 1. As it stands it will be painted red, white and blue per Trump decision. I expect the Air Force at some point to request the colors return to the light blue bottom. That color was chosen in the past because it is harder to see from the ground as it 'matches' the color of the sky. It was chosen for safety.

No worries bc. I think we’re discussing separate issues.

The latest report I can find, still shows Biden taking responsibility, not the military.

https://news.yahoo.com/national-guar...000635005.html

I you have a link, can you please post it.

Your FYI makes sense to me.
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Old 01-26-2021, 05:49 PM
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No worries bc. I think we’re discussing separate issues.

The latest report I can find, still shows Biden taking responsibility, not the military.

https://news.yahoo.com/national-guar...000635005.html

I you have a link, can you please post it.

Your FYI makes sense to me.
The mistake was made by someone in DC. It was not an order by the president. And the guard was there in part to protect Biden. I would have been surprised if he hadn't apologized. Biden also apologized to the National Guard.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-guard-parkin/
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The mistake was made by someone in DC. It was not an order by the president. And the guard was there in part to protect Biden. I would have been surprised if he hadn't apologized. Biden also apologized to the National Guard.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-guard-parkin/
One national guard spokesperson mentioned that some congressional staffers made the request without informing their bosses.

Most likely a mistake by the people doing the coordination efforts. I doubt the congressional leaders played a part at all.

But an apology from the President shows his willingness to take responsibility even if it's not his doing.

Accountable for the action of the people under him.

Real leadership. Night and day difference compared to Trump.

Nice link on a website that seems dedicated to truth telling. Thanks BC, I'll keep an eye on this site.
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The mistake was made by someone in DC. It was not an order by the president. And the guard was there in part to protect Biden. I would have been surprised if he hadn't apologized. Biden also apologized to the National Guard.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-guard-parkin/

IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT

National Guard members stationed in Washington to secure Joe Biden’s inauguration were forced to relocate from the U.S. Capitol. Some ended up resting in a cramped parking garage.

There are conflicting statements about who requested the relocation, but there is no evidence or indication that Democratic lawmakers or the Biden administration played a role.

The National Guard told PolitiFact that members of Congress had no knowledge of the relocations. Many offered their personal offices and conference rooms to the troops after they were alerted to the situation.


Very interesting, how there is no clear answer to the situation.
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Old 01-26-2021, 09:41 PM
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One national guard spokesperson mentioned that some congressional staffers made the request without informing their bosses.

Most likely a mistake by the people doing the coordination efforts. I doubt the congressional leaders played a part at all.

But an apology from the President shows his willingness to take responsibility even if it's not his doing.

Accountable for the action of the people under him.

Real leadership. Night and day difference compared to Trump.

Nice link on a website that seems dedicated to truth telling. Thanks BC, I'll keep an eye on this site.

Yes Maruzo, definitely night and day.

I am a bit bummed out about the pipeline. Considering I have a gas powered E53, and reside in the Houston area. (I could no longer stand living in California. Although born and raised, and resided for 37 years in San Francisco, and Los Angeles Areas. No Thanks.)

I am also perplexed by the order to allow, individuals that have XY chromosomes, to be allowed to compete against, individuals that have XX chromosomes.

Does this mean that, I can now be allowed to physically spar, in a sanctioned MMA event, an individual that has XX chromosomes? And if so, if I knock her ass out, it’s ok? If I simply convey that I associate myself as transgender? This will now be acceptable?

Men and boys can now compete against, Women and girls? Did I misunderstand something?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bid...ts-11611341066

Somebody please help me under stand.
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Yes Maruzo, definitely night and day.

I am a bit bummed out about the pipeline. Considering I have a gas powered E53, and reside in the Houston area. (I could no longer stand living in California. Although born and raised, and resided for 37 years in San Francisco, and Los Angeles Areas. No Thanks.)

I am also perplexed by the order to allow, individuals that have XY chromosomes, to be allowed to compete against, individuals that have XX chromosomes.

Does this mean that, I can now be allowed to physically spar, in a sanctioned MMA event, an individual that has XX chromosomes? And if so, if I knock her ass out, it’s ok? If I simply convey that I associate myself as transgender? This will now be acceptable?

Men and boys can now compete against, Women and girls? Did I misunderstand something?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/joe-bid...ts-11611341066

Somebody please help me under stand.
It’s equal treatment on the field. If knocking out is how it goes then knock out. They know what they signed up for. There’s a difference between rough sports and abuse.
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It’s equal treatment on the field. If knocking out is how it goes then knock out. They know what they signed up for. There’s a difference between rough sports and abuse.

Abuse is never acceptable.

So if I understand you correctly, the XX Carrier(s) will need to be made aware, that she is competing against, XY carrier(s).

So if XY carriers are sorted throughout many events, how will the XX carrier not be prejudiced against? Or what if the XX carrier, as you say, does not want to “sign up” for events that include XY carriers and has her opportunities to engage in events cut by 62%.

Is this not discrimination against women/girls?
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I am also perplexed by the order to allow, individuals that have XY chromosomes, to be allowed to compete against, individuals that have XX chromosomes.

Does this mean that, I can now be allowed to physically spar, in a sanctioned MMA event, an individual that has XX chromosomes? And if so, if I knock her ass out, it’s ok? If I simply convey that I associate myself as transgender? This will now be acceptable?

Men and boys can now compete against, Women and girls? Did I misunderstand something?

Somebody please help me under stand.

So if I understand you correctly, the XX Carrier(s) will need to be made aware, that she is competing against, XY carrier(s).

So if XY carriers are sorted throughout many events, how will the XX carrier not be prejudiced against? Or what if the XX carrier, as you say, does not want to “sign up” for events that include XY carriers and has her opportunities to engage in events cut by 62%.

Is this not discrimination against women/girls?
Happy:

Well how about that... you and I can agree on somethings...
For the benefit of those who may not be paying attention, on Jan. 20th, President Biden signed an executive order which states: “Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports.”

FYI, it sets no specific guidelines governing the participation of transgender athletes since it only calls for agencies to review their policies and then come up with a plan in just over 3 months from now, to ensure transgender youth do not face discrimination in any aspect of their educational experience. This executive order on non-discrimination in education will help build healthier and more lasting bonds between American institutions and its trans citizens, and all of us will benefit. So far, I have no problem with that….

When the question becomes should transgender women be allowed to compete in sporting events with cisgender women, I consider arguments by liberals to allow it to be utterly ridiculous! This absurdity on the political left is no different in my mind to the absurdity of Q-anon believers on the political right.

Why must public expressions of transgender rights always stomp all over the biological reality of cis-gender women? Why can’t we support transgender women without pretending they are the same?

As someone who supports LGBTQ rights, as far as I am concerned and with all due respect to trans rights, people who were born male should NOT be allowed to compete against people who were born female. This is transparently, blatantly obvious, and a sign of deep confusion on the parts of those arguing in favor of such a paradigm. A number of recent polls show overwhelming opinion in favor of grouping sports by biological sex, not "gender identity"

No one is being denied the right to compete. But they are being denied the ability to dominate a less-competitive field because they would be essentially working the system to their advantage. This is not a liberal or conservative issue. It's an issue of fairness.

Women born women can never fairly compete with trans people. You cannot change your DNA. Post-pubertal male bodies have permanent advantages from greater bone length to density, heart and lung size, muscle mass and other physical and physiological advantages. Even with the transgender woman’s testosterone levels being reduced, it is still higher than a natural woman. It has taken a lifetime to get women athletes the support and recognition they need. Title IX was created for that purpose. The entire history of women's sport since the 1900 Olympics has been built on the principle of segregation by sex, which is the only one which makes sense. We have different sports organizations for a reason (men, women, special, para), so maybe one consideration would be to create another one so that everyone can compete openly and fairly?

I think that we should give the sports organizations and other academic/athletic institutions time to sort this issue out, and not get all up in arms about it. Keep in mind that only 0.02% of the U.S. population is transgender. I think there are far more important issues that we all should be worrying about right now, including fighting the COVID-19 virus pandemic, getting our country’s economy back on track and dealing with potential white supremacists led domestic terrorism.

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