Brake/rotor life?
 

Has anyone here had to do a brake job yet? Curious what the typically lifespan is. I'm looking at some 2010's and wondering when I'll have to deal with brakes.

If the car is covered under the maintenance plan I wouldn't even worry about it

True, but i might be crazy enough to buy one of these towards the tail of the factory warranty (at least mileage wise).

Get the extended maintenance and warranty. Cause brakes will be the least of ur concerns if something needs to be fixed lol

I can't answer ur original question because I've only had mine for about a month

ive got 27k and ive had 3 sets padds replaced fr and rear , and 1 set of rotors all due to squeaking !! its in shop as i type with other issues and i mentioned the rear brakes are squeaking again so id assume the rear padds will be replaced again ! !

Brake shouldn't cover under maintenance warranty, at least not here in Canada

Brakes r covered here

US has full maintenance.

Canada has scheduled maintenance, ie oil and filters.

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Lmao

Envy you US owner, we have to pay close to $2K for a full brake job here in Canada

Yea everything is covered here.. Down to windshield wipers and fluid. I don't know why it's not the same in Canada. To be honest it's one of the main reasons I buy a BMW.

It is not the same because we buy our cars from a different BMW sales organization, BMW of Canada instead of the incorrectly named BMW North America.

That said, it is the same in Canada, if we purchase the full maintenance upgrade at the time of vehicle purchase. We have the option of buying the vehicle for relatively less money, with only scheduled maintenance included. There are other differences, we can often get different option packages and colours. We actually get more choices, just not lower prices.

The US is the beneficiary of very low prices for new vehicles compared to the rest of the world.

And we don't have to pay $2000 for a full brake job here, that is a ridiculous price. I am not saying some dealers won't try to charge it, but it is possible to use another dealer, or buy OE parts from the dealer and have an independent mechanic install them, both for far less. The dealer quoting $2000 is simply counting on their customers not checking with anyone else for a second quote. Shows you what they think of their customers.

According to the price from Tisher(better price than any local dealer), parts alone will cost $1,465.73 USD not including any labor:wow:. So you can figure out how much it will cost for a whole brake job for a X5M/X6M here in Canada.

Left Front rotor(34116789069): $275.57
Right Front rotor(34116789070): $275.57
Front brake pad(34116799964): $292.05
Front wear sensor(34356792568): $18.62
Left Rear rotor(34216795318): $215.50
Right Rear rotor(34216795318): $215.50
Rear brake pad(34216794879): $153.38
Rear wear sensor(34356792571): $19.54

Wow I'm really glad this stuff is covered..

My dealership advertises $1099 for a late model V8 X5 brake job, both axles, including pads/disks/sensors and all labour, with a two year parts and service warranty, loaner vehicle, and a hand car wash. $466 for brake pads only, no disks, including labour.

I will defer to you on those prices for the M model, seems like they can see the M customers coming from a mile away.

or BMW charges more for parts of a higher performance car( bigger rotors, pads, etc), oh wait every manufacturer does that :rolleyes:

Amortized over a lower production volume

Wonder why they had to design an M specific brake pad wear sensor for the rear axle? They managed to use the standard sensor on the front axle.

You are ignoring the big Items and talking about wear sensors? The rotors( the most expensive part) are bigger on the M model.

Not at all. Higher performance rotors would cost more in engineering and manufacturing. Just can't figure out what makes a brake wear sensor high performance.

Again you are missing the point, the difference in sensor cost is marginal and does not account for the 1000$ difference in brake job quoted, the biggest difference is the difference in cost of the rotors

Those are expensive rotors and pads. But X5 M rotors are also big at 395 and 385 mm. I am sure you can get aftermarket brakes like Stoptech drilled rotors and pads for much cheaper.

Sensor costs are pretty much same across all X5s, M or not.

Rotors being larger doesn't account for a significant price difference, since they aren't manufactured with a separate rotor and hat. Material cost is somewhere around $0.20 per lb. Differences will be due to the amortization of the design cost over a smaller production run, a more complex casting made for drilling, and the additional costs due to using different rotors for left and right sides, so increased set-up costs. Material and machining costs will be similar, a little more for the drilling. Maybe the scrap rate is a bit higher. I would bet that the warranty accrual costs are significantly higher, given potential abuse.

The rotors turn out to be around twice the price of the E70 rotors. So beyond the small justifiable differences, it appears BMW is charging much larger margins on the M parts. Good for them.

There is nothing special about the sensor, perhaps a different length wire attached to it. It is not different in and of itself, it is simply an indication of what their priorities were. Why would BMW go and design a new sensor for a relatively limited production vehicle and not use a stock item? Only because price wasn't an issue. You don't put new parts in the system if you can possibly help it.

My comment in post #16 was simply that the M brake parts are unreasonably expensive, ie the cost of the improved parts is not justified except by the M label.

Your comment that dealers see M owners coming from a mile away was what made no sense as non of it has anything to do with M owner per se. Trust me BMW has been trying to save cost every chance they get, maybe the reason they made a different sensor is beyond your understanding

$275 each for front rotors is a bargain considering the size and that they are a 2 piece rotor. Rotors for my wife's E63 are like $900+ each from Mercedes.

Holy Crap! Does that come with a happy ending?

42k miles original pads and rotors. Including 5 laps around road America.

So the parts prices don't look too bad, and as someone said, brakes should be the least of my concerns. On the service records I have looked at on a couple used examples, 29k seems like a point where it might need fronts.

My biggest challenge is getting the price right on a used one. I missed a 2010 with 29k miles for $60k a couple weeks ago, and it wound up at a BMW dealer who then listed it for $71k. I looked at one with 44k miles locally and they raised the price to above mkt. after I looked at it and they discovered it had a whole bunch of options. Luckily time is on my side right now.

Rule #1.. Don't let people know what they have in their hands.

lol. Yes, it was a complete FAIL on my part.

I had my 2010 (42k miles) on eBay for $60k and got zero hits. It has about $20k worth of extras including 100k mile warranty, 21" summer wheels/tires and 20" snow wheels and tires.
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