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Overboost 12-16-2017 02:10 PM

2004 X5 ZSP Power Folding Mirror Retrofit Research
 
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My next retrofit will hopefully be the power folding mirrors. I started with the necessary master switch module I picked up on fleaBay for $79 delivered in excellent shape out of a 2005 and is already installed.

After days of researching the proper mirrors needed and reading about all the microswitch and gear failures in the design, I am thinking new mirror assemblies will be the best course of action. So, here is my question.

I pretty sure I have the basic heated and tilt/memory mirrors without anti-dazzle and I have the sport package and the mirror backings (triangle mounting to the doors) are gloss black. I ran my VIN at BMW VIN decoder and no listing for mirrors. (LU37432) ECS Tuning has the basic power fold mirrors, heated with tilt but they are not gloss black for the sport package. My dealer could not provide any information on the auto fold sports package mirrors. Does anyone know of the proper part number for the basic auto fold, heated, memory/tilt in gloss black mounting back for the sport package?

I'm seen in my reading others have done the retrofit and I could use some direction on the proper direction to proceed? The whole sport package thing is where I am stumbling. Probably just my OCD... ;)

I welcome any and all suggestions.

scourtaud23 12-16-2017 03:48 PM

I know I have them on my 4.6is but I don't know if these are what you're lookin for. You might want to browse the parts catalog for 4.6is

Qsilver7 12-16-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1123893)
My next retrofit will hopefully be the power folding mirrors. I started with the necessary master switch module I picked up on fleaBay for $79 delivered in excellent shape out of a 2005 and is already installed.

After days of researching the proper mirrors needed and reading about all the microswitch and gear failures in the design, I am thinking new mirror assemblies will be the best course of action. So, here is my question.

I pretty sure I have the basic heated and tilt/memory mirrors without anti-dazzle and I have the sport package and the mirror backings (triangle mounting to the doors) are gloss black. I ran my VIN at BMW VIN decoder and no listing for mirrors. (LU37432) ECS Tuning has the basic power fold mirrors, heated with tilt but they are not gloss black for the sport package. My dealer could not provide any information on the auto fold sports package mirrors. Does anyone know of the proper part number for the basic auto fold, heated, memory/tilt in gloss black mounting back for the sport package?

I'm seen in my reading others have done the retrofit and I could use some direction on the proper direction to proceed? The whole sport package thing is where I am stumbling. Probably just my OCD... ;)

I welcome any and all suggestions.

Go to one of the online part database sites like realoem.com, bmwfans.info, or etk.cc and DO NOT input the last 7 digits of your VIN (LU37432). When you input your VIN, the part database becomes "specific" and will hone in on how your specific BMW was optioned...and not list all available options for that model/model year/build date. :)

If you input data for a 2004 X5 3.0 with a 4/2004 build date...then go to the diagrams for the exterior mirrors...click on the the diagram for mirror housing for X5s with option codes S430a (int/ext dip) & S760a (high gloss).

Do the above and you'll see there are MULTIPLE selections for the various options...you'll see a choice for "yes" or "no" for the option codes you have. If you want exterior mirror assemblies for sport pkg w/high gloss (S760a)...then make sure the supplemental column says "yes". And you also want the auto dim exterior folding mirrors...then also make sure the supplemental column says "yes" for that feature, too...as well as "yes" for any other features you have (heat/fold/high gloss/dip/etc).

Do that for both item #1 & #2 in the diagram. Click the link below to go directly to the part database for a X5 3.0 with 4/04 build date, then click on the diagram for S430a & S760a outside mirror assemblies:
RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog

Overboost 12-16-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Qsilver7 (Post 1123906)
Go to one of the online part database sites like realoem.com, bmwfans.info, or etk.cc and DO NOT input the last 7 digits of your VIN (LU37432). When you input your VIN, the part database becomes "specific" and will hone in on how your specific BMW was optioned...and not list all available options for that model/model year/build date. :)

If you input data for a 2004 X5 3.0 with a 4/2004 build date...then go to the diagrams for the exterior mirrors...click on the the diagram for mirror housing for X5s with option codes S430a (int/ext dip) & S760a (high gloss).

Do the above and you'll see there are MULTIPLE selections for the various options...you'll see a choice for "yes" or "no" for the option codes you have. If you want exterior mirror assemblies for sport pkg w/high gloss (S760a)...then make sure the supplemental column says "yes". And you also want the auto dim exterior folding mirrors...then also make sure the supplemental column says "yes" for that feature, too...as well as "yes" for any other features you have (heat/fold/high gloss/dip/etc).

Do that for both item #1 & #2 in the diagram. Click the link below to go directly to the part database for a X5 3.0 with 4/04 build date, then click on the diagram for S430a & S760a outside mirror assemblies:
RealOEM.com - Online BMW Parts Catalog

Thanks Qsilver7,
I did go and browse the RealOEM site and followed the build 04/04 3.0 and I do not see any reference to folding mirrors. I think you may be onto something.
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3937

So I input 4.8 04/04 build date and I think I see what I am after although all the different options show the same part number.
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3938

So if I am correct, i need:
Left mirror 51167039925
Right Mirror 51167039926

Let me know if you think I missed anything. Thanks for your help!

Qsilver7 12-16-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboost (Post 1123916)
Thanks Qsilver7,
I did go and browse the RealOEM site and followed the build 04/04 3.0 and I do not see any reference to folding mirrors. I think you may be onto something.
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3937

So I input 4.8 04/04 build date and I think I see what I am after although all the different options show the same part number.
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3938

So if I am correct, i need:
Left mirror 51167039925
Right Mirror 51167039926

Let me know if you think I missed anything. Thanks for your help!

You are correct with the part numbers...but your realoem.com link is the wrong diagram. You selected the diagram for option code S760a (which was under "GLAZING"...you need to scroll down further to "OUTSIDE MIRRORS" and select the diagram group that says S430A & S760A.

S760a is for sport pkg mirrors only...the folding option comes with the S430A option (auto-dip/dim electrochromatic mirrors)...so you need the diagram that lists both of those mirror options...here's a direct link for the 2004 X5 3.0 that will have those same part nbrs listed you found under the 4.8is:

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3938

Don't forget that you may need item #2 as well (and perhaps #3)...and if you have the high gloss Schwartz (black) trim...you'll need:
  • 51 16 7 002 319 (left)
  • 51 16 7 002 320 (right)


Overboost 12-16-2017 10:03 PM

I'm hoping to reuse the covers and supporting rings on my mirrors now. Fingers crossed getting them off without breaking tabs... :dunno:

I also plan on reusing my glass even though it is not electrochromatic. That might be another day...

Thanks again for helping me, I owe you... :thumbup:

Qsilver7 12-17-2017 08:08 AM

:thumbup:

Overboost 12-17-2017 02:00 PM

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OK, next question if anyone knows the answer. In preparation for the power fold mirrors, I coded my GM3 for SPIEGELEINKLAPPEN to active.

Does anyone know if the vehicle order needs a $313 option (folding mirrors) added on an X5 E53?

Does anyone know which modules store the vehicle order on X5 E53?
*EDIT* I think I found the answer to above question. Cluster and EWS.

scourtaud23 12-17-2017 03:09 PM

Didn't look into that, but it seems right. I'll look into it when I connect to the x5 next.

Overboost 12-17-2017 04:42 PM

Wow, a serious headache reading how to change the vehicle order in the E53. Our E53 uses the old ZCS vehicle order structure and is not as simple as changing it like my later model E46. Apparently I need Zeko software to make the changes and then have to code the modules and entire car with NCS using checksums. One mistake and you brick the EWS. Not too confident in changing this myself. Anyone else ever done this? :dunno:


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