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James1991 07-11-2019 03:34 AM

Loose in traction e53 3.0D (from Europe)
 
Hi, in the beginning - sorry for my bad language.. I've X5 3.0D 135kw date of production 03/2002 - manual transmission, 270 thousand kilometres.
I've problém of traction - it seems, that there is some loose, when clutch going to gripping - Most often when i starting on 1st and 2st gear or when on drive the highway on the tempomat and I accelerate with tempomat. Itcan be described like some little yank/twitch before car starts drive.. Sometimes I hear little metal clink from front wheels. Yeasterday i lied down under the car a testing with hands from rera to front:

1.) rear differential - with minimal loose, only driveshafts have little loose/vacancy

2.) cardan driveshaft (from NV 125 to rear diff) - central cross joint without vacancy, central rubber with bearing - little crack on the rubber, guibo OK

3.) NV 125 has little vacancy (i think it's normal)

4.) front driveshaft to front diferential without vacancy

5.) front diferential - little vacancy between front cardan shaft and driveshafts with metal clinks between (little vacancy in driveshafts, but without cranks during steering) - diff no hums/roars



Sometimes, when i hear metal clinks, it happened when i drive about 20 kilometres per hour on 2.st gear and push down the clutch pedal and push up..
I've big suspicion on the duallmass Wheel.. Im sos sorry for my english, I'm from Czech rzpublic from central Europe:-)

Thnak you all of us for advices and posts..

wpoll 07-11-2019 06:33 AM

Could be CV joints - when they lose their grease and get dry, they clink as the steel balls move in the joint. On fronts this usually occurs when turning, but there is the same sort of joint right at the front of the rear diff that is known to make this clink noise. Normally this occurs when moving from forward to reverse but in a manual car it could also happen when the clutch loads and unloads the driveline, especially in low gears when the torque is higher... :dunno:

*edit* - the joint looks like this...

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James1991 07-11-2019 07:08 AM

Do you mean of "clink" the CV of cardan shaft part nr. 17?

https://www.google.cz/search?hl=cs&t...=1562842999976

However, the main problem is the vacancy/loose when clutch get gripping, do you understand me? I don't know, how else I can it write:-)..

SlickGT1 07-11-2019 08:36 AM

Sound like his driveshaft needs the longer version.

Звучит как что-то прокручивается? Да?

Someone post him up a link of the extended driveshaft that the pre facelift cars suffered with.

andrewwynn 07-11-2019 10:10 AM

Try going in a tight circle left and right with heavy throttle you can use brakes to keep car slow.

I have a feeling you are describing the front driveshaft slipping in the spline at the transfer case. BMW made two different length driveshafts and the short ones can sometimes end up being too short when the engine mounts wear and the front dif moves forward.

It will make a metalic clank when the spline slips to the next tooth.

James1991 07-11-2019 12:05 PM

i try it. I know this problém of short driveshafts and i study the longer version.. First, what i've checked was front driveshaft if he had a vacancy. "By hand" is driveshaft ok, but i will try driving the circles. Thanks

EODguy 07-11-2019 12:23 PM

zkuste guibo.

znamená to, že problém je v přenosu?

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andrewwynn 07-11-2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James1991 (Post 1165682)
i try it. I know this problém of short driveshafts and i study the longer version.. First, what i've checked was front driveshaft if he had a vacancy. "By hand" is driveshaft ok, but i will try driving the circles. Thanks


You will never notice by hand. By the time it would be that bad it would just spin. Another possibility is a CV axle pulling out of the differential.

James1991 07-11-2019 02:38 PM

There is the video, when i move with main cardan shaft and what happen with front cardan shaft (thru the NV 125)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=906F...ature=youtu.be




There is the video, when I move with front cardan shaft and what happen with front CV driveshaft..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJkR...ature=youtu.be


Both guibo's are in perfect condition...

wpoll 07-11-2019 04:32 PM

Yeah, that looks/sounds like worn splines on the transfer case output socket - front drive shaft. :(


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