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c-bass 11-21-2020 05:14 PM

Alright fine, we won't keep anyone in suspense. I rolled the dice and decided to give the passenger side a try before we lost daylight and still had the PRO wrench in hand.

Medium heat
no fires
and the fitting let go with about half as much effort. SWEET!!


https://i.imgur.com/CLeMhlO.jpg


BEHOLD!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT VICTORY LOOKS LIKE!!!


https://i.imgur.com/VoefeNP.jpg


Effduration, THIS is why something simple like undoing a fitting becomes a project.


https://i.imgur.com/J3BOdsZ.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/T7kWgle.jpg


About 3 or 4 of the threads on that fitting where in the crustacean zone fusing the two together pretty good. One thing that does make it much easier is the design of the brake hose has this star interlocking thing that prevents it from spinning as you apply force.

There's been a couple times I've mangled a brake line trying to get it loose because the other side wasn't held down properly, spun around and caved in on itself.

Unfortunately my picture taking was lacking some because of gloves/fire/brake fluid but I managed to get both brake lines back in.

The fitment of these Raybestos hoses was pretty good. The one hose needed a slight bend to get it to sit in the plastic guide thing but overall I'm satisfied with the quality.


https://i.imgur.com/umV7LGa.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ApH6sIq.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/1GJy5Gw.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/uLR9Ons.jpg


and juuuuuuuuuuuuuuust as I thought I was wrapping up on the passenger side I couldn't seem to get the fluid to stop dripping. New copper washer on both sides so what gives?

I took off the hose and looking at one of the washers I noticed something that looked off. Hmmm


One side of the washer


https://i.imgur.com/jTWd9mK.jpg


The other side


https://i.imgur.com/O1J0PQj.jpg


Grrrr....I guess you gotta double and triple check everything nowadays because made in China :rolleyes:


The old copper washer didn't look too bad so I cleaned it up a bit and threw it back in there. Brakes weren't leaking with the old washer so it has to be better than the new extra leaky one right?


Everything is back together and after bleeding the rear, the brakes should be a done deal.

Purplefade 11-21-2020 05:54 PM

That is REAL pretty now :thumbup: Shit ton of work I can only imagine, but the result is totally worth it - and, well, you'll have brakes that you can count on now :rofl:

Happy 11-21-2020 11:00 PM

That Swampy is one tough cookie!

crystalworks 11-22-2020 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-bass (Post 1195098)
Update...

This last week has been a pain in the ass!! The fleet is turning on me, I don't know if they're all upset about the weather just like a I am but 3 out of 4 vehicles are acting like...well...typical BMWs actually, so nothing to be surprised about and EXACTLY the reason I have backups........

Narrator: Will our hero go double or nothing and try the other side? Will there be as much unexpected fire as the first side?? Stay tuned to our next exciting episode and watch from the safety of your screen as....THE FIRE RETURNS!!! DUUN DUUUUN DUUUUUUUUUNN!!!!!!!!

Looks like Propellerhead has got a little competition. He's our resident yarn spinner, but you sir have some talent as well. I was riveted. The ups, the downs, the downs, the downs, and the UP! :thumbup:

guntherrex 11-23-2020 04:14 AM

hehehe, keep up the good work! and remember, it can't be tight if it's a liquid! ;)

c-bass 12-07-2020 06:28 PM

We'll start off this round of the shenanigans on a positive note

For the last couple months I've been cleaning the headliner a little here and there. Yes, the last couple months.

I'm a little....particular let's call it, about the cleanliness of my vehicles and for anyone that's been following the progress here you might remember Swampy needed quite a bit of work. I managed to get everything to the point where if I dropped any food item on the bare carpet I wouldn't hesitate on picking it up and eating it but there was always a dark cloud hanging over my head.


https://i.imgur.com/TYo8BfZ.jpg


Cleaning a carpet is easy. You get a bottle of some chemical with the skeleton hand on the label, pour it out on the carpet and go at it with a heavy duty brush attached to a drill or use a power washer.

Headliner and particularly old headliner is a bastard to clean. There needs to be a fine balancing act of moisture, but not too much moisture and agitation...but not too much. Delicate, tedious and overhead. My favorite! :rolleyes:

I did some reading and found a number of people suggested a product called Folex for headliners in particular. I've never heard of before so I looked into it and it seems to be a general purpose fabric/carpet cleaner that was easily available to me, in a big bottle and cheap.

And so I began the process of spraying some Folex on a microfiber towel, rub rub rub, wipe off with a clean microfiber and wait for it to dry. I would spend about 10-15 minutes at a time before things would be too saturated for me to continue and I would go at it every few days.

A little bit too moist and the headliner would start to become detached from the foam and the same would happen if I rubbed too hard. At some point I realized that the back part that's sagging will definitely be more than enough reason for me to redo everything, but that's not going to happen until the weather gets better.

Also I was curious how clean I would be able to get this thing so lets have a look.


BEFORE


https://i.imgur.com/7vopZfZ.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/jAmdvlt.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/tfLljyf.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/5BM6WdX.jpg


AFTER


https://i.imgur.com/Ph8kAWP.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/lpQcIC4.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/HPMhOx1.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ACKDUCL.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Ph8kAWP.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/0W4BfwC.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Ke69zpR.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZQ4UKEP.jpg


It no longer looks like a pissed on mattress in an alleyway above my head :thumbup:

Fifty150hs 12-07-2020 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c-bass (Post 1195758)
We'll start off this round of the shenanigans on a positive note

For the last couple months I've been cleaning the headliner a little here and there. Yes, the last couple months.

I'm a little....particular let's call it, about the cleanliness of my vehicles and for anyone that's been following the progress here you might remember Swampy needed quite a bit of work. I managed to get everything to the point where if I dropped any food item on the bare carpet I wouldn't hesitate on picking it up and eating it but there was always a dark cloud hanging over my head.


https://i.imgur.com/TYo8BfZ.jpg


Cleaning a carpet is easy. You get a bottle of some chemical with the skeleton hand on the label, pour it out on the carpet and go at it with a heavy duty brush attached to a drill or use a power washer.

Headliner and particularly old headliner is a bastard to clean. There needs to be a fine balancing act of moisture, but not too much moisture and agitation...but not too much. Delicate, tedious and overhead. My favorite! :rolleyes:

I did some reading and found a number of people suggested a product called Folex for headliners in particular. I've never heard of before so I looked into it and it seems to be a general purpose fabric/carpet cleaner that was easily available to me, in a big bottle and cheap.

And so I began the process of spraying some Folex on a microfiber towel, rub rub rub, wipe off with a clean microfiber and wait for it to dry. I would spend about 10-15 minutes at a time before things would be too saturated for me to continue and I would go at it every few days.

A little bit too moist and the headliner would start to become detached from the foam and the same would happen if I rubbed too hard. At some point I realized that the back part that's sagging will definitely be more than enough reason for me to redo everything, but that's not going to happen until the weather gets better.

Also I was curious how clean I would be able to get this thing so lets have a look.


BEFORE


https://i.imgur.com/7vopZfZ.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/jAmdvlt.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/tfLljyf.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/5BM6WdX.jpg


AFTER


https://i.imgur.com/Ph8kAWP.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/lpQcIC4.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/HPMhOx1.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ACKDUCL.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Ph8kAWP.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/0W4BfwC.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/Ke69zpR.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZQ4UKEP.jpg


It no longer looks like a pissed on mattress in an alleyway above my head :thumbup:

Wow! Nice work! :thumbup:

Happy 12-07-2020 10:00 PM

Seriously! I have not been successful in cleaning headliners to this day!

c-bass 12-07-2020 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifty150hs (Post 1195764)
Wow! Nice work! :thumbup:

Thanks,

Usually I can get a headliner looking brand new with light duty cleaning but
this was the first time I've had to deal with stains that were caused by soaking through the headliner.

Overall I'd say I put about 4 hours into it and I wasn't able to put more than 10-15 minutes in at a time because of the saturation of the fabric.

You can see there's still a few smaller bubbles here and there. I can "iron" those out with my hand for the most part with very light and even pressure. if I push even slightly too much it leaves tracks like you're driving through snow.

c-bass 12-07-2020 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy (Post 1195768)
Seriously! I have not been successful in cleaning headliners to this day!

This was my greatest success so far but I'll probably end up regluing it or maybe upgrading to something fancier because I haven't been able to get that sag out of the back. It will only take a few weeks (Maybe days) after I start daily driving before it drives me crazy :D


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