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Paydirtdog 12-27-2011 08:58 AM

Orange battery light after ignition turns off
 
I occasionally have an orange battery symbol light in the center of the dash between the speedometer and tachometer come on for a few seconds after I shut the engine off but before I remove the key. I can't find anything in the manual regarding this light. Any ideas? 07 4.8

rh71 12-27-2011 10:24 AM

Do you have comfort access? If you did, it usually tells me when the battery is starting to get low. If you don't, I know it charges the fob while in the ignition - perhaps it's telling you the recharge cycle is beginning to fail? Just a guess.

Paydirtdog 12-27-2011 10:29 AM

No comfort access and both fobs give me the same warning light.

XXX555 12-27-2011 12:59 PM

"High drain" issue? Anyway to check your battery status?

Thirdy 12-28-2011 02:40 AM

if you still have the original battery, it maybe time to replace.

ard 12-28-2011 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thirdy (Post 858060)
if you still have the original battery, it maybe time to replace.

What?!?!? Heresy... it must be something wrong with BMW, some DEFECT, some PROBLEM...


:)

In all seriousness, agree with this last possibility.

Here is a practical consideration: if you are out of warranty, you take this in to BMW and they can bend you over for a few hours of diagnostics....You could be $300 when they say "bad battery, our MSRP is $400 and 30 minutes to install"

Sometimes it is cheaper to just replace the battery (with a compatible NON-BMW one) and then see if that did it.

Just a thought.

A

PS Anything unusual about your use? short commutes? sitting open?

hardcrab 12-28-2011 12:36 PM

Hmmmm- my original ('07 4.8) battery just died 3 days ago. I never saw a warning light, but could've missed it if it's only on a few sec. at start up.

I'd highly recommend replacing the bat. if it's original. When it died, I couldn't open the back hatch to get to it with out first getting a jump start. Even after the jump start and running it wouldn't go in to gear to be able to drive- I guess not enough voltage to engage the electronic shifter- just got error messages. Save your self some aggrivation and replace it now rather than getting stuck some where. It's only a matter of time.

rh71 12-28-2011 04:31 PM

As per an older thread, my SA says these car batteries are *supposed* to last 7 years but of course it depends on recharge cycles and climate.

Also, for the "just replace it" people - doesn't it require a "reprogram" after you do it? That's not a do-it-yourself... wishful thinking. What have you people done to get past this if not just shelling out the cash to BMW?

hardcrab 12-28-2011 04:53 PM

I removed my battery the day it died, and couldn't get a replacement for over 24 hours. After installing it and starting the car there were several error messages on the display. As soon as I put it in gear they went away. Only thing I had to do was reset the clock. Drove it home 450 miles later that day- no issues.

Paydirtdog 12-29-2011 10:48 AM

When I replaced the battery in my 01 X5 it didn't resolve the dead battery issue. Turmed out to be a final stage resistor problem. Hope that's not the case here. You would think BMW resolved that problem in the E70 series. I think I will replace the battery though, just to be safe.

Paydirtdog 12-29-2011 10:57 AM

Forgot to mention that the car will be 5 years old in May and only has 35K miles. Mostly a grocery getter...

giovane 12-30-2011 01:39 PM

Be aware when you change the battery by yourself, it also needs a registration on the module.
Read this, it's valid for all BMWs
More detailed explanation on battery registration - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com

rh71 12-30-2011 02:00 PM

any idea on cost of just the registration if done at dealer? I still gotta find myself a good local indy.

3Series 12-30-2011 02:24 PM

I don't have first hand experience but from what I've read, the stealer won't register a battery you don't buy from them.

giovane 12-30-2011 04:41 PM

Look for somebody able to code in your area, it's pretty easy. Go on the area section on E90post and ask for coders in your area:
USA - NY / NJ / CT / PA - E90Post - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Actually try to get in contact with this guy, he codes for free:
Extending my free coding offer. Come on over and get your car coded for free! - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com

Paydirtdog 12-31-2011 09:58 AM

Update
 
I called the local dealer and talked with a service tech. He told me the orange light I was looking at was not the battery but the symbol for the radiator and I was probably low on coolant. I still had a low battery warning message though. He thought that was because we don't drive the car on long enough trips to keep it charged and now that the battery has some age, it's not able to keep up with the demands of the electrical system. I scheduled an appointment with the dealer for a new battery ($500 installed) for next Monday. I drove it for about an hour yesterday and sure enough all the battery warning messages went away. I'm thinking about cancelling my apointment now...although it probably wouldn't hurt to change it as it's going on five years old. There is also a check engine light on now. Left over from the battery being low??

Paydirtdog 12-31-2011 10:04 AM

clarification needed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by giovane (Post 858454)
Be aware when you change the battery by yourself, it also needs a registration on the module.
Read this, it's valid for all BMWs
More detailed explanation on battery registration - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum - E90Post.com


I've read elsewhere on this forum that the black batteries are the older lead acid, and the white ones are the newer AGM type. My understanding is that you can replace the black ones with the same type and not have to register or reprogram, but if you replace it with the AGM type, you do. Not sure if this is correct. I wish someone would clear this up for me.

rh71 12-31-2011 01:19 PM

$500 for a battery replacement? Did they say how many hours because I'm sure it includes programming. God I should've stuck with my Isuzu - was $90 done myself in 20 minutes.

giovane 12-31-2011 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paydirtdog (Post 858557)
I've read elsewhere on this forum that the black batteries are the older lead acid, and the white ones are the newer AGM type. My understanding is that you can replace the black ones with the same type and not have to register or reprogram, but if you replace it with the AGM type, you do. Not sure if this is correct. I wish someone would clear this up for me.

No, if your bmw has been built after 2005 (maybe 2006) then you have to register the new battery, even if you buy the same exact battery.
If you change battery type, then you need coding+registration.

Paydirtdog 01-15-2012 09:04 AM

Had the dealer replace the battery with the new AGM type. The color of the battery has nothing to do with the type. The new AGM from the dealer is also black. I had a coupon for 10% off service at the dealer so it ended up costing me about $435.00. But hey, they washed my car!


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