Originally Posted by trader4

Like many people, I'm part of a family, so it wasn't my decision alone as to what to buy. That you seem to actually enjoy and make excuses for the "quirks" is where we differ. I try to not be so enamored of a vehicle that I lose all objectivity and try to minimize window regulators that fall apart, smashing windows to bits, as routine, maintenance related, $2 components, etc. I didn't start the thread, asking the question of whether folks would buy another one, but someone was obviously interested in the topic and I think the failure rates of certain items are valid to the discussion.

I've said the X5 also has strong points. But if someone asks about possibly buying one, I think they should hear what I consider unacceptable too. Even the diehard enthusiasts admit for example that the window regulators are a continual problem. I've had 3 go here, resulting in 2 windows with shattered glass. Other folks here, I believe in this very thread, have reported having 4 go. That to me, is very unusual, not expected, and unacceptable. That;s not normal maintenance in my world. People should know it and they can decide how important that is to them, if windows falling down, shattering while the car is parked, possibly dealing with it in a rainstorm, etc is just an annoyance that they are willing to live with. I think it's a fair criticism. Same thing with a vehicle that needs a new front suspension at 70K. If people think that's normal maintenance and acceptable, it's up to them. Just give them the facts, they can then decide.

And a lot of it depends on your circumstances. You may enjoy working on that window regulator. Someone else may be taking it to the dealer and racking up big bills. If they are in the latter category, they should get a quote for a new suspension at 70K too, since you consider that normal.