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Originally Posted by Proflyer
First off, do some searching. That's been said. But I HATE guys who just say that, so I'll add my .02
Thank you - I don't foray into the E70 forum much (as you can tell by my sig pic) - but after 5 years and 8k+ posts I try to help others as much as I can.
Love the diesel X5. Lots of power, handles well, drive is what you'd expect with a BMW. It's not perfect, but I feel like that's more around what the EPA has forced on these guys and NOT a BMW thing. The only issues we've had have been diesel emissions related, you'll find threads about the faulty DEF tanks--get a clean CPO one and if it has issues they'll fix it, give you a loaner...not the end of the world.
Absolutely - wouldn't mind CPO to work the bugs out - not a big deal if little things need to be addressed -
We have two boxers and the grate thing that goes across the back--they love the car and it fits them fine. If you have larger dogs (they're about 65lbs each) you'd maybe want larger but that's up to you. Great room either way.
We have an American Bulldog (sig avatar) hes about 75 lbs, and just adopted a boxer mix (mixed with retriever, collie, and beagle we think - we ran a DNA test) who is 31 lbs now, probably will get up to 50-60 pounds - so yeah the E70 should be good to go on room for us.
Get one highly optioned. We did and I'm glad we did. The options are a ton more new...but lose their value quickly used. We have every option but the rear DVD screen and it's nice stuff.
EXACTLY what I was thinking - I'd like one with Sports Activity package, Style 214's, etc -
If you do get a diesel, learn how to do some 'handy' stuff yourself. Like when the DEF needed filled I learned I can go to the truck stop and pump it right out of the truck stop DEF pump into the two tanks with zero issues and it costs $2.50 a gallon instead of the robbery BMW wants to charge you. Use a local shop for oil changes or if you're CPO plus the extended maintenance do that (obviously). Overall I'm very happy with the car and to date we haven't had any real issues, just funny check engine light stuff that the dealer fixed. All new part numbers and *knock on wood* they got the bugs worked out.
Absolutely - I'm fairly handy and routine maintenance I probably can handle myself - DEF, oil changes, filter changes, etc is not a problem.
I've heard they're extending the warranty on the emissions related stuff as well--EPA is obviously the 800lb gorilla here and a faulty DEF tank won't fly at any mileage. If it's required for the emissions to operate I've been told the EPA is talking 12 years unlimited mileage on all diesels and all manufacturers. We will see, but I think at the end of the day the emissions issues will be on BMW's shoulders like they are on VW etc.
You're right there - I think if you lost a DEF tank at 80k miles I'm pretty sure BMW would have no problem covering it - isn't EPA emissions warranty 120k or 12 years either way?
You're in a neat spot here--I'd for sure sell the car back as that's obviously a good deal. I saw a news report of scammers trying to buy cars (and dealers) on trade way low knowing they can get the full buyback $. I'd either make the dealer take it to the penny for the buyback or give it back. Then go drive everything used in your price range, lots of great mid-size suv options out there. We did the same and settled on the X5 but I'm in Denver and have a ski house so travel during the winter was a top priority.
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See above - yeah there is a ton going on with the TDI scandal right now, we bought our 2014 three months before the scandal hit as a new leftover.
Like I said I wouldn't even be considering the buyback normally, IF VW had something approved by the EPA for the people who want to keep their cars.
Originally we just wanted to keep and drive it, but since the settlement has VW forced to get 85% compliance, I don't think we can just go on our merry way.
Wife owes about 14k on the car which is great by most people's standards, with the buyback we'd be at $31k so having $17k in her pocket. If she gets whatever approved fix (if there ever is one) performed, they would pay us $7600 -
However I say "if there is ever one" because I don't think its VW's priority to get something approved because they are already pissed at the EPA for finding their cheat - and they don't want to deal with warranty claims on fuel pumps, turbos, DPF's, etc because any fix will likely hamper mileage somewhat and also accelerate lifespan of emissions components.
Back to the X5, the 2014's are out of our price range most likely and I'd rather go with the E70 which probably had its bugs worked out later in its life cycle with a '12 or '13 - than going with first model year of a new generation - My E53 is still going strong 13 YEARS LATER so I have no problems buying another BMW as I know how to keep them running tip top shape long term.
With the color combo and mileage I'm looking at (Alpine White, under 60k miles) I'm getting around $35-38k which I still think is kinda high but I have a few months to decide.
However, yes its a friggin mess - I have a feeling its going to really hurt VW as a brand - since the stop sale on TDI's there is literally nothing that VW makes that my wife would drive in the same price range - sure you can get a Golf Sportwagen 1.8T but if I'm going to sacrifice the mileage of the TDI I may as well get something bigger and with more options - plus it has a slushbox automatic (she has the Dual Clutch auto in her TDI now)
What kind of mileage are you guys seeing with your 35D's?