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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby
My thing is I don't believe that the government wants complete confiscation.
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You're right, they don't... and couldn't even if they wanted to.
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Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby
However they want to whittle down the 2A over time so it basically means absolutely nothing and exists in theory. Yes there are a lot of firearms in this country owned by people. But if all you can do is look at them in a safe and not give them their intended purpose (a tool of self defense in your daily life and the equalizer against those who would try to do harm to you or others), then the 2A is moot.
Come live in NJ for a while and you will understand. I can buy long guns. But I need to apply for a Firearms ID card issued by the state which takes 30+ days initially. And that card enables me to buy handgun ammunition as well. If I want to buy a pistol I need to go through the same process as applying for an FID card, you can only buy one handgun every 30 days, and a permit is needed for each purchase. The permits are good for 90 days and if you go back to your police dept the chief can extend them for another 90. But they will expire after 180 total days and you'll need another one.
I already mentioned we are not allowed any form of carry outside the home if you are not a political elite or LEO. I mentioned the transport fear in our state. Notice how little the 2A actually exists here?
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I agree, and understand your frustration with NJ. If enough people leave NJ (as you're doing), or vote on 2A candidates things could change. But the fact is, gun owners are in the minority @ ~33% of households as of 2015 I believe. It's going to keep going down as more and more rural areas are turned into suburbs or cities. That's how a democratic republic works... if more people want gun control than don't, that's what should happen, in theory. Now, you throw in money, lobbying, special interests, etc and who knows what you end up with. I don't know what the NRA spends, but I'm guessing it's A LOT.
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My problem is it's the 2nd Amendment, it was written right after free speech, assembly, petition, and religion. It's not a 10th Amendment issue but over the last 100 years every state in the country decides how much of the 2nd it will allow its citizens to enjoy. And it's overbloated keep the people in check government bullshit if you ask me.
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That's what the libertarians and the right wing want though isn't it? State's rights, not Fed making all the rules? I'd be for a Federal 2A law governing all the states so long as it included the stuff I mentioned and left out open carry. But that's me, as we've covered.
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My remaining 2 pennies.
On the other hand, my wife got fingerprinted today (I forgot to mention that you need to do that when you get your Firearms ID), and God willing, in another week or two, our police department will call and say her card and pistol permit is ready to pick up, and I can finally go to my FFL to get her G42 that's been sitting there waiting a few weeks now. I may actually get one more pistol permit and get one more handgun before I leave officially, just because.
Can you tell I'm ready to be out of here yet?
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Sweet. Enjoy the new toys!!! Sucks you have to jump through so many hoops... but we are talking guns here, not stamps, video games, or other hobby. At least you live in NJ and not the UK.
