@semcoinc, thanks for the reply, to be frank I have got a ctek 5amp charger/maintainer and also a 3.8amp rated one from lidl (pretty big supermarket chain in Europe) your one looks very nice and tidy and compact though.

Man dates on batteries yes good point, suppose you could insist on seeing battery markings on purchasing an item...what does annoy me is the I found a bosch agm which is shown as having 5 year warranty in some european countries yet only a 2 year warranty here in Cyprus, digging around i see it apparently up to the discretion of the reseller what warranty he decided to give on items ..cheapest agm I found is 2117 euros the bosch same spec is 235 bit 2 years warranty. Gonna wait it out a tad longer and see how current battery holds up as temps drop.....luckily they rarely get below 5 C.

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