I was hoping I could get 100k miles out of the last refresh. Especially, when I did it, one had never been done. It had about 178,000 miles on it at that point with no refresh. When I did it, the only things in really bad shape were the front control arm bushings and the rear ball joints. Everything else was worn, but not ridiculously so. The shocks weren't even leaking, but I replaced all of them anyway.