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Originally Posted by Happy
Andrew this virus was in Texas definitely during the last week of December.
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It was probably in every state by early january. Officially there were 100s of 1000s of people being treated for 'the bad flu' going around; we will never know how many of those were actually cv19 but it was *quite a lot of them*
400,000 people came to usa in the month from mid dec to mid jan… means quite likely 200,000 of them came before new years. if half of 1% of them carried the virus that's 1000 people with unrestricted travel around the entire usa, sharing the plane with 100s of people on the way, they say in close contact over 2:1 transmission so that means 3000 people maybe or 60 per state average where they were talking about 2, 3, 4 people per state by february 'officially'
Here's an example from the past of people putting their priorities in the wrong place to *not solve a problem*.
back in the 90s a university did a study on what comprises the items in a garbage dump; they also then interviewed 1000s of college students to ask them what they thought was the makeup of garbage.
What were students most concerned about filling out landfill (due to moronic PC culture)? styrofoam and disposable diapers… want to know what they thought those percentages were?
College students thought that diapers were 20-30% of garbage and likewise for styrofoam.
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“No question, we are disappointed that they made this decision,” said Eric Dezenhall, a spokesman for the National Polystyrene Recycling Co. Its experiments with foam recycling had made McDonald’s “one of the best educational resources in the country,” he said.
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McDonalds was the KEY to getting polystyrnene into the recycling channels and that was completely eliminated once big macs were switched to paper products.. ZERO percent of paper big mac containers will ever be recycled and 10s of 1000s of trees are turned into big mac containers now.
the truth of styrofoam in the dumps; 1/2 of 1% was and still is 30 years later styrofoam. was a non-issue, IS a non-issue. Any attempt to use something else will *aboslutely* be more impact on the environment, it's just too small of a thing.
disposable diapers; likewise; they were coincidentally also 1/2 of 1% of the trash; eliminating them 100% would put the trash down to 99.5% before you factor in any other trash made in the process of making cloth diapers, than factor in the ginormously large foot pint on the environment to clean a cloth diaper vs dispose of a throw away one.
Back to the covid; it's the same thing; we are crippling everything for the 1/2 a percent. we need to target the 1/2 a percent in THIS CASE it's worth saving because the 1/2 a percent are 100,000 american loved ones, but we *never* had to destroy the lives of 50-100 million americans to not save 100,000. There is no way to show that wasting the trillions in resources changed that number..
recall from the beginning of the shutdown phase, the *entire point* wasn't to change the total death count that from centuries of evidence shows it's inevitable, it was to prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed and stretch out how long it took to get to the 100 or 200,000 people, to prevent it from doubling or worse because people couldn't be treated. Many if not most people lost sight of that concept completely (changing flatten the curve to wait for a cure bs).. We got ahead of the curve in mid april regardless of how high the death rate got, we never got close to the capabilities of how many hospital beds and ventilators were available for treatment. For no apolitical reason, the goal post keeps getting moved for hypothetical reasons.
I am literally the only person i know that has taken the 'jab your brain just behind your eye' covid-19 test and came back negative, but yes i wear a mask for the brief time i'm inside stores and when i'm in chicago I also wear gloves; i also put hand sanitizer on the outside of my gloves when i get to my car and treat my key. i've been doing this since january. Why do i do it knowing what i do know about the 1:100,000 chance i might have bumped into somebody with covid that might have coughed on my hands while i was in the store? Because it's not too difficult to do and I have a 79 yr old dad that lives downstairs from me mostly.
Would it makes a lot of sense to be able to concentrate the resources so I could maybe not need a mask and people in dense population areas would have more, OF COURSE IT WOULD. Will the powers that be ever be honest enough that we can make an educated decision on the matter. not a chance in hell.