Originally Posted by andrewwynn

eat yogurt regularly after any broad spectrum antibiotic lest you go through the extra week of hell i did. I wear a mask when i go to stores; even if i don't have CV i could quite possibly have cold or flu and those aren't nice to share with others either.

a recent study from japan showed that there is a very solid prophylaxis effect in BOTH directions when people wear masks; i think they said if one person wears a mask it's 30% better and if both 60% better.. i forgot the exact numbers but it's a very solid improvement when BOTH sides are wearing, ALSO in spite of the unfounded concern of self-infecting by touching the mask on the outside and then your face (vs perfect handling by just the ear straps), there is almost no risk of self-infection mishandling the mask so that's a HUGE DEAL.



in the studies long term meant all day for workers either construction etc avoiding dust or in health care. Another IMPORTANT NOTE! I have always preferred using the ventilators vs masks so i can breathe and also SEE (not fogging glasses each time i breathe out), but DUH that means you are venting your germs so I will take one for the team and use ventless masks when i go shopping to keep my germs to myself.



The problem is mobility; no matter how infections a disease is it will 'self limit' take stupidly deadly disease like ebola; it will self-eliminate very quickly by killing all the hosts ; for a germ to be successful it has to mutate to a *less deadly* germ so that it won't kill the host; as a favorite comedian pointed out long ago (referring to cancer at the time) but applies here also; if the disease kills the host it didn't win it's a TIE.

localized seclusion is the answer to stoping a contagion; why did china block *all* travel inside the country in/out of wuhan but allowed air travel by the millions? insanity. If we simply had a database that showed infection 'rate of change' and had a limit of say 10/100,000 increase per day as a limit and if a county hits that limit you simply put up a road block nobody in or out not related to curing people until that rate drops; it's an extreme measure but worked in china it will work anywhere.

People are driving *everywhere* in spite of *any* official lock down and no doubt some of them are taking the germ *everywhere*… it's a game of percentages; if people used logical reasoning like above it could be contained, and stopped.

This 'course' of cv19 is nearly behind us, by august it will be for all purposes gone in the usa unless something unseen in human history with viruses happens;

Viruses follow a 'logistics function' curve ; not some of the time *all the time*. they start stupid slow, you can't see the rate of increase initially and then they expand exponentially and you can't see any chance of slowing down and then almost as suddenly they level off quickly and the curve becomes a revers log curve and plateaus to its conclusion.

we are well past the inflection point and getting close to the end. we aren't 3 months into the official curve and it should be mostly over by 4… cv19 is a lot larger quantity than recent pandemic like covid 1 (sars) but that was maybe 3 months start to finish. cv19 will still likely have 50-100 deaths a day in a month which sounds pretty 'cold' to call that 'over' but like the majority of the current deaths, these were not healthy people to start with and for a population of 330 million 50-100 is statistical background noise (again not being insensitive to the pour soul who's grandma is officially background noise, clearly that is just sadly statistical verbiage and not meant disparagingly of course).

so; back to that initial question; usa will begin the most amazing road to recovery since the great depression this summer, it will be 'on a tear' before the end of the year but it will take 4-5 years to get back to where the usa is the 'clear winner' of the cv19 world wide financial reset.