That means a lot Don. I was hoping we were still on that same page. I wanted to defend your constitutional right to have and share a dammed option without getting flamed.

To me we are just having a very reasonable debate without name calling. I know I hit some nerves so you swung back pretty hard which is fair but I was trying to say you don’t need to be offended or bothered not that you weren’t. It bothers me greatly that the world we live in demands a certain way (politically correct) way to speak and I was not raised in that way. At all.

I would much rather break thru barriers that are artificially made and come out on the other side realizing that there really is no point to tiptoe around fragile egos. (I’m not you are in that group it should be obvious that’s not the case).

A great example I use is that with one of my brothers case. You are not in his inner circle of friend until he will call you an asshole to your face in a crowd. It’s a badge of honor.

It’s said loud and drawn out like Otto from “a fish called Wanda”.

If (the reader) reviews the debate going on here there are very good points going both directions and we are both learning and growing into improved people.

Don and I are both usually right (I’m for serious when I say it rounds to always), so it takes some “form words” to get through but if you really look you will see never devolved into a mud slinging contest.

You can obviously tell some of what may trigger me (mostly if you say I’m wrong without some concrete proof) but an opinion will ever hurt my feelings because “you don’t know me” subjective guess should never really upset somebody at the core.

Also; it’s pretty darn stupid to write somebody off just because they pissed you off I’d be a very solitary man if that was a rule followed by me or anybody that knows me. I will 100% piss you off at some point if you hang out with me long enough. That’s pretty much the only 100% guarantee I have.

I also am literally the best problem solver I know. (I am for serous) and xo has a handful of super talents that give me an amazing set of competitors. They will absolutely beat me on occasion and I would love to say “I let them win” but they will get it faster than me on occasion.

I have a trick to why I’ll claim the best Is that in will work outside the box in ways “you really shouldn’t” because I’ve tried so many things I have a huge skill set of “done that”.

Here is a perfect example:

How to make a 1” hole in two places in a skim coat 3/4” plaster wall to run a hidden wire in three places for surround sound without making any dust in a 2.5M brand new mansion?

I didn’t have to spend more than one second to arrive at “hammer”

I’ve made hundreds of holes in drywall during demolition and noticed that if you hit just right it makes a perfectly crisp cut like you spent 5 minutes with and xacto knife.

I didn’t warn my brother what I was about to do other than to say “watch this” and two seconds later, perfect hole. He almost shit himself, you should hear him tells the story from his side.

I also know “I don’t know shit about anything”.

That Is to say: as much as I know and add often as I’m correct, what I know in total rounds to zero so I need friends like Don who are usually right and maybe together what we know. Can round up to 1.0.

I am a FIERCE debater; some have said “master” (but I’m not sure they meant that as a compliment). Don’t let emotions get in the way of a good debate I’ve enjoyed the exercise and hopefully brought some incite to some hearts and minds along the way.

Families fight, they also make up, move on and are better and stronger in the end. I wrote the summary regarding me v Don because from the observers it was becoming clear that though we were just using strong language we were not cutting each other down* with ad homonym attacks though I have to admit I loved the girlfriend and better get checked lines those were both a A+ school yard trash talk!

* a couple times I was tempted but I have no interest in burning a bridge like the one with @upallnight. He’s literally dug through a bone yard to salvage x5 parts without a thought for me and has a “want to help” drive that is definitely top 1%.

So anybody got a problem that he’s human and bitch slaps back if you piss him off? If that scares you away your loss. Long ago got into a big drawn out battle that ends up resulting in the most detailed explanation in the entire www of how the x5 fuel system works.

If not for uan being so damned stubborn to make me “prove it” that likely would never have happened.

Ok whew I have to get up in five hours and only slept 3 last night better check out.

Peace (I am for serious).

Ps. Been trying to recall a great movie line to apply to how this and other threads have a roller coaster life of their own. I think I finally figured it out;

From “ my blue heaven” I think; the main character gets into a big shouting match with his fbi handler. The handler loses his cool and Vinny says something like “that’s the difference between you and me, you think we are fighting, and I say we are finally communicating”.

Strong words and loud voices do not necessarily mean hurtful or disparaging thoughts. Swear words are the “spice “ of language.

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