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Old 09-14-2020, 04:08 PM
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I don't know how you talk about the pandemic without defining the role Trump plays in it.

I can certainly separate him or basically anything he says about the virus from my actual approach to dealing with this infection. Since most of what he said are pure garbage.
Good, smart move. It is possible for those who don't agree with his covid policies to protect themselves. And I agree, most of what he says on the subject is garbage.

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But I don't think the many supporters who chant his name whenever he tweets can separate the truth from his many ill-advised and useless alternative solution to the virus, including but not limited to: "wishing it would just go away, no more deadly than your average flu, do less testing, only pute on mask if you feel like it, shooting chlorine into your arm, and my personal favorite, hydroxycloroquine."
That's their business. If they want to shoulder the lion's share of hospitalizations and death statistics, that's their prerogative. But I am also willing to admit to myself that most of those people are not going to get infected and are enjoying a more normal life than myself or family are at the moment. And for taking that risk, they are probably suffering less mental ups and downs as we are. Does that make me a little jealous, yeah. Yeah it does. But my feelings aren't their problems or their fault.

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Focusing on the biggest problem is better than focusing on too many targets at the same time and letting your goal get wahsed out as a result.

Do I like Pelosi or Schumer? I have no opinion on them. They are not the leader of this country and their influence, good or bad, isn't going to change this country in a republican led senate with a republican in charge.

So it's not a matter of spreading the blame for me. It's admitting that we have a bad president and we need to get rid of him and bring in an alternative.
We disagree on the "biggest" problem. The biggest problem, as I see it, is the divide amongst both the citizens and the politicians in this country. Trump is not the leader of the US, though he may be the face of it disappointingly.

But, going with your opinion of him as a bad president (spoiler alert: so far he is), focusing on his positions during covid is not the way to gain Biden votes. You are singing a chorus in the echo chamber to those who were already going to vote for Biden. Focus on things that he might have more impact on. As mentioned, covid was always going to do what virus' do. But the wealth gap continues to grow, government spending continues (by both parties), monopolies continue to be a problem, campaign reform has not happened, etc. Those are issues that more people can relate to and care about. And those are what some of the fence sitters might have their vote determined by.

And, the above is all opinion of course. I understand Happy's frustration with the politics talk on an auto forum... as it most certainly is a waste of time. Hell, only a small handful of us even look at these threads. But time is something I have to waste being at home so much now. When I get tired of it I unsub to the threads for a time and come back later. At the end of the day, we are all Americans, and are trying to create our own little slice of heaven here on earth. The sooner we all realize that, the better, and the quicker things will change for majority citizens and not just the minorities on the ends of the spectrum.
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