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Old 11-16-2021, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by crystalworks View Post
To the bolded, how, specifically?

And to the italicized/underlined, this happened before Trump and coronavirus were a thing. Welcome to post-Citizens United American politics.

I believe individual responsibility is a dead concept in America. Which makes me sad. I don't want regulation to save every life or prevent every accident. I won't even go on a lake anymore because the park police suck all the fun and risk (and funds from my wallet) out of the activity. Will never own a boat or personal water craft (even though I really enjoy those things) because the bureaucracy involved to enjoy such things is out of control.

Take the Astroworld tragedy. Is it a tragedy? Of course. Are each of those concert goers as culpable as the promoters? Yeah, this wasn't a Celine Dion concert. They undertook a risky activity. The father whose poor 9yo just died should be charged with child endangerment. But I'm ranting now... excuse the rum-charged tangent.
The unvaccinated are contributing to the continuation and severity of the COVID health crisis. The unvaccinated put even those vaccinated at risk. The unvaccinated contribute to the difficulties and expense of running a business. The unvaccinated have contribute to the limitations of goods, services and entertainment. The comeback is always we are all free to choose what we do so the unvaccinated aren't limiting anything. My response is how our forefathers defined freedom in a Democracy. Freedom ends when it infringes on the freedom of others.

No, it didn't start with Trump. I will say that he spent his entire presidency, and still is, focused on expanding the division
and tribal behavior in the country and has been alarmingly successful. That is not politically based. It is my opinion based on how much general and political behavior has changed in the last 5-6 years verses the last 50. Certainly he has some good company from both parties but he has a big stage and huge following to influence. Non-compliance with the obvious is more often than not the reason for annoying rules and regulations that feel like bureaucracy. The COVID health crisis is one such example.

I am looking at boats. I used to have one and one of my best memories was putting the pedal to the metal and heading out into Lake Michigan until I couldn't see shore, turning off the motor and just sitting there rocking in the waves.
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