Originally Posted by crystalworks

Mandates or no mandates we are not eradicating CV19. Contraction and carrier status is still possible with vaccination. The rest of the world is not going to be vaccinated, and we aren't closing the borders any time soon to business and tourism. Admittedly, severity of infection drops and not all exposed will be carriers in the US. The only thing that changes with a mandate is you piss off a portion of the population. A not insignificant portion.
It does not take the rest of the world to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity in the US. Folks coming from other countries will not make COVID out of control if it is under control in US. Yes, lots of citizens will get angry if there are mandates. Sometimes it is necessary to protect others from themselves or because of their immovable stand on not getting vaccinated enacting mandates for the protection of others. The only reason I am in favor of mandates is I see enough of the unvaccinated as entrenched in their position that they won't get vaccinated regardless of the facts or how they are presented to them. It's easy to say mandates are bad but without a viable alternative it is just irrational white noise.
Unfortunately, the cat is out of the bag at this point. Instead of focusing on the unvaccinated to direct derision and vitriol, aim it at those truly responsible for the pandemic in the first place. More and more info comes out that CV19 escaped from the Wuhan Novel Coronavirus Laboratory and that it occurred much earlier than we were led to believe according to the Washington Post. The outbreak was then covered up by China, the WHO, Fauci (under his direction the US sponsored work at the lab), the CDC, and of course the media. Now, we will never have conclusive evidence for any theory thanks to China's excellent ability to make people and documents disappear. But I'm fairly certain it was an accidental release from the lab.