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Originally Posted by bcredliner
It's easy to say mandates are bad but without a viable alternative it is just irrational white noise.
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That is an opinion. As is most of the discussion surrounding CV19 (including mine). I've come to the conclusion that trying to vaccinate it away is not the silver bullet some believe it to be. You've come to a different one, which is fine.
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Originally Posted by bcredliner
Facts are just facts. Interpreting facts as criticism or contemptuous is taking it personal. I'm not being personal about any of this.
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Oh, I wasn't taking it personal. I was speaking in the general sense of those proponents of mandates (not yourself I would hope) berating the unvaccinated as if they are incapable of looking at data and drawing a conclusion. There are doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc who are unvaccinated. Are they not intelligent enough to make a decision? I'm sure most understand the potential risks of remaining unvaccinated. If people believed covid killed even 10% of healthy people, this wouldn't be a discussion. For most, covid hits like the flu or is asymptomatic. Outlying cases may have lasting effects (we don't really know the extent of this yet) or need to seek medical treatment.
I've come to believe Covid is here to stay. My family is vaccinated and my kids will be soon. We'll likely all need boosters once or twice a year. We don't know long term effects of the vaccine, not that I believe there will be any. But it is still an unknown and I don't blame anyone not wanting to put it in their body if they aren't ready to. Or whatever there reason is, doesn't have to be fear of the unknown.
I would still like to know how the unvaccinated are infringing on the freedoms of others. Did not get a response to that minus the supply chain issue that I don't believe can be placed at their feet. If there is a compelling case, I'd like that info to continue forming my opinions.
Another year or so and all this talk will normalize and be a "covid/flu season is here, get your shots" ten second blurb on the local news.
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Originally Posted by bcredliner
Verifying the source for the virus or if somewhere along the line someone screwed up has nothing to do with curbing the spread of the virus.
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You are 100% correct. It does something that might be far more important, again IMO. It might shed light on who we should and should not be listening to or trust going forward. Remember when I said (in another thread that seems like ages ago now) Fauci, the WHO, and the CDC were lying when they said masks weren't effective? That turned out to be correct.
BTW, I also suffer permanent hand damage now due to the FDA's relaxing laws on the ethanol quality that could be used in hand sanitizers by manufacturers. Turns out benzene and methanol are really bad to be rubbing on your skin, even in relatively small quantities. They have since rolled that back (after a lab turned up those chemicals in products) and recommended issuing batch recalls on certain manufacturers. Thanks FDA. Much appreciated.