That is an opinion. As is most of the discussion surrounding CV19 (including mine). I've come to the conclusion that trying to vaccinate it away is not the silver bullet some believe it to be. You've come to a different one, which is fine.
What are the three most important reasons that brought you to your conclusion?
Oh, I wasn't taking it personal. I was speaking in the general sense of those proponents of mandates (not yourself I would hope) berating the unvaccinated as if they are incapable of looking at data and drawing a conclusion. There are doctors, lawyers, scientists, etc who are unvaccinated. Are they not intelligent enough to make a decision? I'm sure most understand the potential risks of remaining unvaccinated. If people believed covid killed even 10% of healthy people, this wouldn't be a discussion. For most, covid hits like the flu or is asymptomatic. Outlying cases may have lasting effects (we don't really know the extent of this yet) or need to seek medical treatment.
I really hope it doesn't sound like I am berating the unvaccinated. My purpose is only to present verified facts in hopes some will change their mind and get vaccinated. Doesn't matter who they are. It's not about intelligence it is about drawing their own conclusion without considering or having access to all the research that can be verified by a specialist in infectious disease or organizations like the CDC and WHO. There are bad doctors, lawyers and scientists and the health crisis and social media that are enticing to make a name for themselves and being anti-vax expedites that goal. Most have little to no formal education concerning infectious diseases.
I've come to believe Covid is here to stay. My family is vaccinated and my kids will be soon. We'll likely all need boosters once or twice a year. We don't know long term effects of the vaccine, not that I believe there will be any. But it is still an unknown and I don't blame anyone not wanting to put it in their body if they aren't ready to. Or whatever there reason is, doesn't have to be fear of the unknown.
I agree that COVID will be around for a long time. But it is not a given that there is nothing we can do to prevent that from happening. We can't reach herd immunity without hundreds of thousands of those unvaccinated changing their minds, I'm not sure I blame anybody or not. I do feel very strongly that one is either part of the solution or part of the problem. I have no idea how many refuse to follow any of the guidelines, how many are never going to get vaccinated because of political reasons, because of their flawed interpretation of freedom, because they have drawn their conclusions from the media sources rather than infectious disease specialists, because they are just being obstinate or it is just part of there identity. I can understand being confused. But I see very little effort to resolve their confusion. I think they should have separated the wheat from the chaff by now. I view all of these groups as part of the problem. If there was another solution to controlling COVID I can understand choosing that route rather than vaccination but there isn't.
I would still like to know how the unvaccinated are infringing on the freedoms of others. Did not get a response to that minus the supply chain issue that I don't believe can be placed at their feet. If there is a compelling case, I'd like that info to continue forming my opinions.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-...rs-begins-mean The supply chain problems were exacerbated by COVID. Many weren't allowed to go to work, many were too sick to work or were quarantining because of the infection. Even with the vaccine available around the world there are still not enough workers to clear up the bottlenecks. Businesses have failed or don't know what they need to order to serve their customers so they have shortened ordering leadtimes. Buying habits have changed as have purchase choices. That still is the case today. Vaccination is best of what we have to curb COVID. Failure to be vaccinated perpetuates the supply chain problems.
Another year or so and all this talk will normalize and be a "covid/flu season is here, get your shots" ten second blurb on the local news.
I don't think that will happen. A flu shot is a vaccine. As long as the words COVID and vaccine are strong emotional trigger points anti vaccine folks are not going to get a shot.
You are 100% correct. It does something that might be far more important, again IMO. It might shed light on who we should and should not be listening to or trust going forward. Remember when I said (in another thread that seems like ages ago now) Fauci, the WHO, and the CDC were lying when they said masks weren't effective? That turned out to be correct.
Masks have been the go to for centuries. Masks were the key to stopping the influenza epidemic in the early 1900s. The same for quarantining and social distancing. Not all masks are effective. 1https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/types-of-masks.html There are specific recommendations for the appropriate mask for COVID protection. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449 What is your source for the lack of effectiveness of masks.
BTW, I also suffer permanent hand damage now due to the FDA's relaxing laws on the ethanol quality that could be used in hand sanitizers by manufacturers. Turns out benzene and methanol are really bad to be rubbing on your skin, even in relatively small quantities. They have since rolled that back (after a lab turned up those chemicals in products) and recommended issuing batch recalls on certain manufacturers. Thanks FDA. Much appreciated.